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Richmond, Virginia and the Gun Ban – 1-20-2020

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I once lived in Virginia.  Many of my forefathers are from there in fact (a Great-Great-Great Grandfather named James Thompson Donaldson Sr. was born in Scott County, lived in Wythe Co VA and later Kentucky. My family migrated with Daniel Boone to Kentucky from Virginia.

I have roots there, and deep connection with the state of Virginia, even though I no longer live there and likely never will.

Here’s a little bit of history for perspective:

The first shots of the Civil War were fired in Virginia.

Williamsberg VA was the site of one of the first “gun confiscations” in the place soon to be know as “United States” when Governor Dunmore led the official British forces in Virginia at the start of the American Revolution. Local residents had appointed guards to watch the brick “magazine” in Williamsburg where the coloniy’s muskets and gunpowder were stored, but on the very windy night of April 20, 1775 they abandoned their posts. Dunmore took advantage of the opportunity. He had 20 sailors and marines from the schooner Magdalen land at Burwell’s Ferry, near the modern Kigsmill Resort. They walked four miles to Williamsburg, opened the locked gates of the magazine using keys provided by Lord Dunmore, and started to remove the half-barrels of gunpowder weighing 65 pounds each.

Local residents quickly discovered what was happening, but the sailors and marines had time to load 15 of the 18 half-barrels into a wagon and return safely to the Magdalen.

The governor claimed he was ensuring a slave insurrection could not use the gunpowder, but the colonists recognized he was disarming them. Patrick Henry led militia on an unauthorized march to the capital city; violence was avoided by a face-saving compromise when the royal Receiver General paid for the value of the gunpowder.

( Mary Miley Theobald, “The Monstrous Absurdity,” Colonial Williamsburg Journal, Summer 2006, https://www.history.org/foundation/journal/Summer06/plots.cfm; Norman Fuss, “Prelude To Rebellion: Dunmore’s Raid On The Williamsburg Magazine,” Journal of the American Revolution, April 2, 2015, https://allthingsliberty.com/2015/04/prelude-to-rebellion-dunmores-raid-on-the-williamsburg-magazine-april-21-1775(last checked June 4, 2019))

Yesterday, Monday 20 Jan 2020, a similar event occurred.

As  State Legislator Amanda Chase says, this is not a “Virginia Problem”. This is an “America Problem”.

It’s NOT about guns. It’s about Rights. It’s about the fact the Second Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights. It wasn’t placed there to create an army, or give permission to the “national guard” to carry arms.

It clearly, VERY CLEARLY, states two important things. The people are the militia. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed.

Virginia and the USA are “Free States” and as such, our citizens are forever, “the Militia”. It’s not a few men and women who decide to put on a uniform and a “patch”, and it’s not “white people”, it’s not “racists”.

It is EVERYONE in this country who has those rights.

It is the GOVERNMENT WHO MAY NOT TAKE THEM AWAY.

The United States of America, her citizens, WILL NOT GIVE UP their rights. We keep those guns as a Symbol of Freedom.

To the rest of the world – we don’t care what you do, think, or say. This is Europe or Australia. This is sure as hell NOT Russia, or China and anyone that wants to emulate THOSE places are welcome to move out of this country to one more suitable for their tastes.

The Left in America is simply WRONG.

Stand down, stop trying to ban our guns.

We’re finished listening to you and your illogical reasoning.

AmandaChase

Virginia, Rising

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Facebook has a new group.

Virginia, Rising.

The group started a week or two back, and is up to 8000 members suddenly.

The tyrannical Governor’s attacks on the Second Amendment have triggered a response he surely didn’t expect.

Several other states’ citizens have banded together with Virginia in support of the “2A sanctuary counties”.

Everyone is talking about this.

http://sedgefieldpress.com/the-virginia-flashpoint-a-clear-and-present-danger

The only thing is this guy’s article I don’t wholly agree with his the idea of Urban Preppers hunkering down in their own cities.  I DO agree they will eventually be over run.  I don’t agree that “Bugging in” is a bad idea though.  But, this is not the purpose of the discussion here.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/usmc-major-slams-virginia-lawmakers-your-same-mindset-is-what-150-years-ago-led-this-country-into-a-civil-war/

If you’re not following Virginia, you’d better.

If you’re not supporting Virginia, you’d better.

If you are against the private ownership of guns, you’re on the wrong side of history in America.

Declaration of War – The Left has stated their true intentions

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Beto O’Rourke said, “Hell, yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47.”
“We’re not going to allow it to be used against our fellow Americans anymore,” the former Texas congressman said during the third Democratic presidential debate, hosted by ABC News.
“If the high-impact, high-velocity round, when it hits your body, shreds everything inside of your body because it was designed to do that so that you would bleed to death on a battlefield … when we see that being used against children,” O’Rourke said. He recalled talking to a woman in Odessa, Texas, who had watched her 15-year-old daughter bleed to death after she was shot by a man wielding an AR-15 late last month.
This statement is, without a doubt, a declaration of war on Americans’ Rights and Freedoms.  Guns in the hands of the men and women of this country isn’t just a right, it’s a responsibility, one that as Citizens of this great country, we have duty to observe.
With his pandering comments, he has outted the Left as Gun-Grabbers, something they repeatedly talk down to us about, saying “No one is coming for your guns!”
Well, that part is correct.  The government hasn’t the man power to take our guns.  There are not enough trained people in the US Government, armed or not, to come and take the millions of weapons from the hands of law abiding citizens in the USA.  They can’t even stop CRIMINALS who get them illegally on the streets, so they sure as hell aren’t going to take our guns.
However, this actual “Declaration of War” is exactly what the Left has been awaiting, someone to stick his foot in his mouth, and “make it real” for both sides.  Do you, as an American, sit on your collective asses and say and do nothing now?  Do you wait?  What DO you do?  Let’s continue….
Ladies and Gentlemen, I submit that we are already deep into Civil War 2.0. We have been for some time now. Obama brought on the “Great Oppression” – Bill Clinton and Janet Reno began the process. They demonized “militia groups” because they needed to point at someone as “evil”. The Militia is seen as a “Government Hating” entity, and is made up of mostly white people. (US Census puts whites in the US at roughly 76% of the population, Blacks at about 17%) – thus you will see such a disparity in all aspects of life.
For informational purposes, US Code states:
10 U.S. Code § 246. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
The militia then, is made up of all the of people, who are male, 17 years of age up to 45 years of age, and does NOT exclude women, nor those over the age of 45. At 62 years of age, this “old gentleman” has carried his share of various types of weapons, and used them. With the new technology of eye surgery, I now have better vision (especially in my iron sights eye) than I had at the age of 10 years old.
Obama further eroded rights of Americans, if not in deed, certainly in words. “Bible and gun clingers”. What Clinton and Reno started on Ruby Ridge, and Waco have been realized by many as a wake up call about the attack on American’s God Given Rights to defense, not just of oneself, but of the nation.
When the Founding Fathers put together the Constitution, it was meant to create, and subsequently preserve the Republic. “A Republic,” said Franklin, “if you can keep it.” Keep it we will.
Civil Wars do not begin with gun shots. They begin with disagreement. Usually over some political aspect of the country in which they take place. The American Civil War did NOT start over Slavery. While Slavery was certainly one of the main concerns of both side, and has been pushed to the forefront of history, the truth is, each State has rights over it’s own governance, that the Federal Government may not touch. And so too, the People have reserved to themselves ALL RIGHTS not given to the states.
There is a fine balance that is out of kilter now. Some states wish to ban guns. Some don’t. Some in the Federal government want to ban them, while others do not. Above and beyond the State or the Federal governments however, are the Rights of the People.
The Second Amendment is extremely clear.
The Militia, made up of the PEOPLE, the Rights of those People to keep and Bear Arms SHALL NOT be infringed.  The phrase “well-regulated” isn’t “government run”, it means “trained”.  People who train to defend the towns, villages and states are the militia, not “national guard”.  The National Guard didn’t exist until 1933
Let us be clear… the Civil War 2.0 started over political disagreement. It will be argued for centuries in the future how, when, why, where and who started it, but it is as simple as the Bill of Rights. No GOVERNMENT, State or Federal MAY touch the Right of the People to protect and defend their homes, state or homeland.
The Second Amendment is the back up to the First. You have an absolute right to voice your opinion of the government, government officials, follow your own religion, or to be a journalist and tell the truth. The Second Amendment is there to protect that first one, and all the others. It’s not the “First” in the list of rights, but certainly as important as the First is.
When a person running for the highest office in the land states, unequovcably, “Yes, you WILL turn in your guns” – that is an open declaration of war against the People of this country. Not the few that own guns, ALL OF THEM.
There will be those that support such a person, and they will, ultimately, be on the losing side of that war.
Today – 14 September 2019 – marks the true beginning of Civil War 2.0. Shot still have yet to be fired (unless you count the Texas, California and Ohio mass shootings, by Liberals and Bernie supporters, which, *I* DO COUNT as first shots). But the war of words just heated to the point of white hot.
Beto O’Rourke called the FBI against Patriots who “threatened” him – they merely asked if he was going to lead the charge to take the guns or send his minions…. so, truthfully, what is a “threat”?
O’Rourke made the first threat. HE personally declared war. Will he become President? Highly doubtful, but Leftists, Marxists and Gun Haters are flocking to the pandering fool, making themselves targets as well.
The Law of Unintended Consequences stands clear. If you poke a sleeping bear with a stick, you’re liable to be eaten that afternoon.
The choice now, is yours, People of the United States. We are the Government. The Government doesn’t control us. We are not going to sit and let anyone take our guns. We will fight. We are already organizing against such a thing.
If the Country wants an Uprising, it will get one.
My humble opinion is that people like this O’Rourke character should slowly back into the shadows, go back to whatever he was doing before, be quiet, hide, and stop poking the bear.

Conspiracies, Gun Control and You

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I find it disconcerting that people continually bring up conspiracies, and call those of us who, by the way are very well read on some of the subjects, “sheep” and “brainwashed”.

This is a Leftist tactic. Call people names. Make them feel bad. Make them think they are stupid. Look, I’ve been following and in many cases, disproving (even, shall we say ‘disemboweling’), conspiracy theories) for a very long time. Perhaps longer than some folks visiting here have been alive.

I even ran a site called “Anomalies Network”. I was the forums administrator and one of my jobs was to take apart conspiracy theories and show the holes. I don’t have as much time these days to do that – but suffice it to say that almost every stupid theory out there, from 9-11 to Illuminati has been pretty much disproven.

People, however persist on these things because it gives an air of mystery.

Let me explain what is wrong with this…. it is distracting. It keeps people in an uproar over the wrong things. It takes the focus off the most important things in life, including but not limited to taking care of your own, your family, yourself, your friends and your future.

Right now, there are things that are SIGNIFICANTLY more important than “George Bush caused 9-11”.

  1. Pedophilia… of EPIC proportions.
  2. GUN CONTROL
  3. Socialists, Communists and Muslims in Government
  4. Fighting the good Fight

Choose your battles wisely and carefully. Of all of those things above, Gun Control is the NUMBER ONE MOST IMPORTANT point of the four.

The US Government is onto the pedo rings, and they are taking them down. But, it answers what has happened to so many children who simply vanished over the years.

Socialists and Communists and Muslims in Government will work itself out, or it won’t.

Fighting the Good Fight – the thing that is most near and dear to your heart, whatever that might be, is nothing if you don’t have the freedom to fight. I fight against censorship constantly, to the point I’ve been banned from Social Media in some areas. But, I’m STILL HERE, aren’t I?

Gun Control – isn’t about guns, it’s about CONTROL.

The NRA, GOA and a couple other organizations have more or less folded under pressure from the Left. And from internal pressure of those who think it easier to “get along to go along”.

Gun Control affects us all. Cops, Military, Fire Fighters, and Civilians. A weapon in the hand of a trained individual is worth all the cops in the world if they are 6 minutes away.

Controlling the guns – a plank of the platform of the Leftists in Congress (Beto O’Rourke for example) is absolutely his highest and most important point of order. Bernie Sanders is right there with him.

These two men have one thing in Common. Socialism.

Which, eventually, leads to Communism.

American can NOT become Communist, while the men and women of this country stand up and firmly say “NO”. And to do this we MUST in unison, stand say, “You Shall NOT infringe our Right to keep and bear Arms”.

Stand up. Call your Congressional Reps and tell them in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, attempting to remove our weapons, or access to them, absolutely, unequivocally means WAR.

“Reasonable Restraint” – is a misnomer

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I do not know the author of this piece.  But, most of it appears to have been written by one person, with others contributing.  PLEASE READ THIS, understand it, and pass it on.  It is extremely important in the debate about “gun control”.

There will be no compromise on the Second Amendment.  Here’s the article:

“Regarding the governments ability to impose “Reasonable Restraint” which has now become the mantra of our government. Supporters of the Amendment claim they have a constitutional or Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. Opponents counter thateven if that were the case, the federal government was granted the general power to place restraints on the right. Both of these assertions are based on a misconception concerning the intent of the document known as the Bill of Rights.

When the Bill of Rights was submitted to the individual States for ratification, it was prefaced with a preamble. As stated in the preamble, the purpose of the Amendments was to prevent the federal government from “misconstruing or abusing its powers.” To accomplish this, “further declaratory and restrictive clauses” were being recommended. The Amendments, when adopted, did not create any so-called constitutional rights or grant the federal government any power over individual rights; they placed additional restraints and qualifications on the powers of the federal government concerning the rights enumerated in the Amendments.

If the Second Amendment is read through the preamble, we find it was incorporated into the Bill of Rights as a “declaratory and restrictive clause” to prevent the federal government from “misconstruing or abusing its power” to infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear arms.
Another way to understand the original intent of the Second Amendment is re-write it through the preamble:

“Because a well-regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State, the federal government is expressly denied the power to infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear Arms.”

The preamble and original intent of the Amendments has been suppressed by the institutions of government because it would expose their usurpation of power and perversion of Amendments contained in the Bill of Rights.

By advancing the myth that the Amendments grant the American people their individual rights, the federal government has been able to convert enumerated restraints and qualifications on its power into legislative, executive, judicial and administrative power over individual rights. The federal government claims it was granted the constitutional authority to determine the extent of the individual rights enumerated in the Amendments and/or impose “reasonable restraints” on those rights. This assertion is absurd. The federal government does not have the constitutional authority to ignore, circumvent, modify, negate or remove constitutional restraints placed on its power by the Amendments or convert them into a power over the individual right enumerated in the particular restraint.

A denial of power or an enumerated restraint on the exercise of power is not subject to interpretation or modification by the entity the restraint is being imposed upon. The restraints imposed by the Amendments, which were adopted 4 years after the Constitution was ratified, override the legislative, executive, judicial or administrative powers of the federal government. If this were not the case, then the restraints would be meaningless because the federal government could simply circumvent, modify or remove them. Why would the States have requested and adopted enumerated restraints on federal power, subsequent to their ratification of the Constitution, if the federal government possessed the authority to nullify them?

When the federal government infringes on one of the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights it is not violating anyone’s constitutional rights; it is violating the additional restraint or qualification placed on its power by the particular Amendment where the right is enumerated. The distinction between rights and restraints is critical. [The right is not given by the Federal Government. Our rights are given by God and are inalienable. Therefore, they can’t be limited or taken away.]

As stated in the Declaration of Independence, the American people have unalienable rights that come from a higher source than government or a written document. By acknowledging that people have natural rights, which are bestowed by a creator, the Founders laid the foundation for the principle that government does not have the lawful authority to take away or infringe on those rights. This principle was incorporated into the preamble and structure of the Amendments to secure individual rights from government encroachment; that is why they were designed and imposed as restraints on the exercise of power.

If the individual rights of the people had been created by the Constitution or an amendment to the document, then they would cease to be unalienable because the right would depend on the existence of a document. If the document or a provision of the document disappeared, so would the right. The belief that individual rights were created by a written document has opened the door for the federal government to claim the power to define the extent of any right enumerated in an Amendment. This has transformed constitutional restraints placed on federal power into subjective determinations of individual rights by the institutions of government. By failing to understand the difference between amendments that create rights and amendments that impose restraints on government, the American people are watching their individual rights vanish as they are reduced to the status of privileges bestowed by government because the constitutional restraints placed on federal power are being replaced by government decree.

Opponents of the Second Amendment always try to diminish the right enumerated in the Amendment by asserting that rights are not absolute. This is just another straw man argument because the Amendment is about imposing a restraint of the powers of the federal government concerning a right: not granting a right or defining the extent of a right. In addition, a review of the Second Amendment shows that the restraint imposed by the Amendment does not contain any exceptions.”

NRA Statement

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Fairfax, Va.— Chris W. Cox, executive director of the National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action, released the following statement on Tuesday after retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens advocated for a repeal of the Second Amendment:

“The 97-year-old retired justice has long held the opinion that American citizens do not have the individual right to own a firearm for self-protection. Emboldened by the mainstream media, the gun-control lobby is no longer distancing themselves from the radical idea of repealing the Second Amendment and banning all firearms. The protestors in last week’s march told us with their words and placards that the current debate is not about fake terms like “commonsense” gun regulation. It’s about banning all guns. The men and women of the National Rifle Association, along with the majority of the American people and the  Supreme Court, believe in the Second Amendment right to self-protection and we will unapologetically continue to fight to protect this fundamental freedom.”

Disinformation about 2A

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They keep saying “We’re not coming for your guns”, “No one is talking about the second amendment”, “We just want GUN SAFETY”, along with numerous other “statements” to distract you and provide disinformation.

Horseshit. They lie.

There has not been a BIGGER lie told in awhile… except maybe “You can keep your doctor” and “I did not have sexual relations with that woman”….Until now.

Taking your guns is the A #1 GOAL of Marxists in America.  They are disguised as “Progressives”, “Maxists”, “Children” and Communists.  Most of these Children are the sons and daughters of “Marxist loving” parents who would do ANYTHING to protect children, except prevent abortion.  But, boy, let a gun be around and they shit themselves.

Below is a New York Slimes article calling for the repeal of the Second Amendment.

The world is about to change for some people. Make sure you’re on the correct side of History my friends. Lock and Load, Prepare and stand ready.

https://thenccpa.com/upcoming-events/

14 April 2018, All Capitol Cities, and DC – Pro-2A Rally.  Show up.  Or be prepared to fight if we don’t make enough noise.  Pass the word or Pass the ammo.

40 Reasons To Ban Guns

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40 Reasons To Ban GunsArguments Made By Liberal Lawmakers
1. Banning guns works, which is why New York , DC , Detroit & Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC ‘s low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis ‘ high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are “just statistics.”

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should “put up no defense – give them what they want, or run” (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don’t Die – People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a “state” militia.

14. These phrases: “right of the people peaceably to assemble,” “right of the people to be secure in their homes,” “enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people,” and “The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people” all refer to individuals, but “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” refers to the state.

15. “The Constitution is strong and will never change.” But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren’t necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn’t have handguns, because they aren’t “military weapons”, but private citizens shouldn’t have “assault rifles”, because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940’s, 1950’s and 1960’s, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA’s attempt to run a “don’t touch” campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby’s attempt to run a “don’t touch” campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is “an accident waiting to happen” and gun makers’ advertisements aimed at women are “preying on their fears.”

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a “weapon of mass destruction” or an “assault weapon.”

27. Most people can’t be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self- defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do “civilians” who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban “Saturday Night Specials” and other inexpensive guns because it’s not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don’t need a gun for self- protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don’t need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. “Assault weapons” have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that’s bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that’s good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to “keep guns out of the wrong hands.” Guess what? You have the wrong hands.

 

Safety Versus Security

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“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” -B. Franklin

Benjamin Franklin talked about the choice being between essential liberty and temporary safety. The truth is that safety cannot be bought. It might be borrowed for a time, but there is no such thing as permanent safety.

On 14 March 2018, thousands of young people, in the High School age range (and many much younger than that) walked out of their schools “in protest”.

This protest was staged by Progressives.  Let me be clear, a “Progressive” is nothing more than a Marxist, and Anti-Capitalist, a wanna-be Che Guevera Fan club member, and an arm of the Communist Party.  Every Liberal in the United States is a Closet Progressive, and out-of-the-closet Progressives are Communists in the making.

No, I don’t misunderstand the difference, I KNOW the differences in the definitions of the various types of political parties, but I also know that over time these groups have melded into one for a main objective; to utterly destroy the very foundation of the United States of America.

Those children of 14 March were Sock Puppets.  Many thought they were memorializing the children and teacher killed last month in Florida.  Outwardly, many were told to go protest, and teachers, school boards and school officials – MOST of whom belong to the NEA – allowed this to happen.  School officials who are not in the Teacher’s Unions (notoriously Left Leaning by the way…. seeing the pattern yet?) stood tacitly by for the most part and ignored the ramifications.

Instead of memorializing the dead children, one ADULT with a bullhorn angrily read the names of the children and teach killed, with a very emotional “MURDERED!” she shouted.

Others chanted “Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho! The NRA has GOT TO GO!”

Some young (Muslim) women – I know this because they were dressed in hijabs, stated they came here looking for “peace and tranquility” and America “is a murdering country”.  Came here for tranquility?  From where?  Why?  Stay in your own country and fight there.

Franklin argued for Liberty, not safety.  He, like so many others of the men of his time pledged his “fortunes” to the cause of making America Free.

History tells us that the Constitution originally did not contain the Bill of Rights.  The First Ten Amendments, which were required before the Colonies would eventually ratify the Constitution.  While those tend Amendments are certainly like all the others, able to be added or removed based on the rules IN the Constitution, those ten Amendments are part and parcel of what enables us, the People of this country, to remain in charge.

Not the government.  Not a set of Judges.  Not even Congress.  Not the President.  We, the People.  The laws in the Constitution govern the GOVERNMENT, not us.

The Second Amendment was not written as a secondary by product of wild imaginings.  It was written because the King of England had tried numerous times to disarm the British Subjects in the Colonies.  In fact, all of the Colonists were “Subjects” to the King.  Now, today, we, their descendants are CITIZENS.

We remain Citizens by Right of Being Born here.  By Right of being able to defend ourselves against those who would disarm us, and reign over us with tyranny.  The Colonists didn’t want a standing Army to be used against them.

Today, we have a “standing Army”; the police, who have been militarized.  The US Military, sworn to protect the Constitution, the National Guard, the Coast Guard, and other, lesser groups who are armed in every Department of the US Government (As “Agents”).

The Second Amendment is NOT about Hunting.  It’s NOT about “self-defense”.  It’s about PREVENTING a large standing army from taking our Freedoms away.

The Second Amendment is there to PREVENT Progressives from taking our guns.

I’m going to say something here, that might sound inappropriate to many of you, and I don’t condone violence, and am, having served in the military for over two decades, very against war.  But, it is high past time to stand up and fight back.  Not with violence.  With phone calls.  With letters.  With Email.  With speeches.  With words. With the Pen for the Pen is mightier than the sword.

It is time to let everyone know, without a doubt, we will NOT give up one more piece of Liberty for Safety.  Giving up our guns gives anyone the ability to come in and rules us all.

In my sixty years on this planet, I would never have believed that we could have gone so far down the path of destruction at the hands of an internal enemy of Progressive Marxism.  All, EVERYTHING I have fought for is being usurped before my very eyes by wolves in sheep’s clothing.

Progressives are the ENEMY.  They are not “Progressive”. They are REGRESSIVE.  They are the Children of Hitler.  They are the “arm band” people.  They are the ones who tell you “It’s for the Children” and then put you in prison later, for who knows what purposes or reasons.

Because, you are a dissenter.

I say DISSENT!

ARISE! and Stand up to these people.

While you still can, be heard.  When they won’t hear you any more and they start coming for your guns, then will be the time to shoot back.

This isn’t a game any more.  This is not a charade.  The Left WANTS YOUR GUNS.

They MUST DISARM YOU to control you.  And Control you, they will.

Unintended Consequences

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The law of unintended consequences illuminates the perverse unanticipated effects of legislation and regulation.

In the social sciences, unintended consequences are outcomes that are not the ones foreseen and intended by a purposeful action. The term was popularized in the twentieth century by American sociologist Robert K. Merton.

UnintendedConsequences is what happens when you attempt to remove the Rights of Free people, because a few loud mouths with zero understanding of history yell louder than the rest of us.

Stand up and be heard.  Shout down the Democrats, Liberals and ignorance of the “Student Protesters” to Congress.

#UnintendedConsequences

A book for you all to read.  Please understand that you will become Red Pilled even more than you are now if you read this book. Download, save, read and pass on.

Consider this my gift to #III%, #2A, #MilitiaGroups, #Patriots in the USA.

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/129/Media/Unintended_Consequences.pdf

 

Confiscation? Now…

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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/gun-confiscation-center-opens-seattle/

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2018/03/07/seattle-police-begin-nazi-style-gun-confiscation-no-laws-broken-no-warrant-no-charges/

Apparently it has started.

AAFES, the Army and Air Force Exchange Service has apparently begun removing “military grade” weapons accessories from their shelves.  Not sure in what this is response to yet.

aafes

Trying to understand what day the People will stand up and say “ENOUGH!”

 

Confiscation Begins

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Vermont has approved, 30-0, a measure allowing police to confiscate weapons.

The proposal, which passed with a 30-0 vote, states a police officer could seize firearms from an individual if they were determined to be a risk to themselves or others, WCAX-TV reported.

 

https://ijr.com/the-declaration/2018/02/1071424-vermont-approved-proposal-police-guns/

Do not take your rights lightly

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Alert.

Recently 17 lives were taken by a 19 year old man who was suspended from the school he attended. He had previously legally purchased a rifle. He used that rifle to kill those people.

He committed the crime of murder, 17 times, and he injured numerous other people. Also crimes. Multiple crimes.

He has had the police called to his home at least 38 times according to news reports, and nothing came of these calls; the calls included both “elder abuse” and “child abuse”.

He was an angry, young man, who purchased a gun. Legally. Before the shootings, and apparently before he PLANNED the shootings.

The Left is screaming for Gun Control YET again.

At the same time, the LEFT is attempting to frame Trump for Russian Collusion (which never happened). Two days prior someone close to me predicted that “there will be another school or mass shooting in an effort to prevent attention on the Democrats and the Left, and the Russian ‘problem'”.

That came true.

I am NOT a conspiracy theorist. Not by ANY STRETCH of the imagination. Why in the world did this happen at this point in time, and why are people instantly calling for the banning of weapons, yet again?

But something is going to give this time.

It will NOT BE MY GUN RIGHTS.

You don’t take cars from every innocent driver because of drunk drivers.

You are screaming about banning of abortion (murder) of unborn children, and yet you cry about guns.

The Second Amendment is a RIGHT not a Privilege.
Driving a car is a Privilege, not a Right.

This is a warning to every Left Leaning person calling for “Gun Control”. Shut up. You’re not getting, taking or banning the guns of anyone in the United States without a fight. This is a Right. It is not one that you will remove without that fight.

What you people want is to ban legitimate, law abiding people like me and many of my friends from owning guns because YOU ARE AFRAID OF GUNS.

Instead of “Gun Control” you want “Control”. We will not yield, we will not give in, and you will not take them under any circumstances. You are asking for a fight that you can’t win. You will not control America, Leftists/Marxists. We will not give up our guns and will not LET you control us. Give it up, go back to the woodwork.

America At War

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The Las Vegas shooter has not yet been identified – at least not in a “political sense”.

The authorities haven’t put out any motives, and certainly haven’t assigned his attacks as “terrorism”.  I suppose this is because they can’t, or don’t want to do so.

This author will point out that he has connections with the Philippines and by association, the Muslim world.  Indonesia has the largest group of Muslims on the planet.

We are sincerely at war.  We are war with Islam, and have been for a long time, truthfully since the 1700s.  Even Thomas Jefferson recognized we were at war with them.  That war has never stopped and there has never been a truce.

Deeper than the war with Islam however, is a war against rational thought, against thinking, against the beliefs of Conservatism.  Against the American Way of Life.

The Left has become an incoherent mass of victims, blaming everyone but themselves for everything happening in America.  They tear down what is right, and destroy the ideals of truth.  Facebook has tried to suppress any news out of  Las Vegas.  Ok, perhaps not “any” but some.  By redirecting people to, of all places, Politifact.  Interesting.  When we tried to post some alternative news (which, by the way has turned out to be TRUE) a popup box showed, attempting to redirect readers somewhere else.  But don’t believe this article, here are the actual screen shots I took myself.

I’m sorry but I will not be directed.  Not by Facebook, Twitter, a Government Agency.  None. No one. Americans can find themselves in dangerous situations like Las Vegas.  Truth. Carry your gun. Carry it everywhere, regardless of rules.  Ignore the laws.  They are there to get you killed.

No a hand gun would not have likely helped in Las Vegas.  A rifle might, but most of us couldn’t have stopped him at that distance.  But there are other incidents where we could have.

We are now in a war.  I will tell you now why I believe this.  Even without evidence to support what I am about to say the Left declared war on traditional values long ago.  We all know they did. We all know that the Left denigrates anything good on the Right.  They teach the young that we’re evil.  We’re “Nazis”.  We’re “racists”.  And they scream and yell if we point to them and place them in a “generalized box” of “Liberals”.  Funny how that works.

It’s ok for the Left to place the Right, Conservatives, Christians and others into one box, but not for us to do the same thing.  They fight for control of our minds by indoctrinating the children, calling us names, and making us all appear to be evil.

And they blame the tools, not the men who use them for the damages caused.

Progressive Tyranny is the word.  This is what they do.  This is how they control.  It’s not about “Gun Control”, it’s about “Control”.  Whether it is gun control, mind control, school control, or Control of the White Right Wing… it’s about control.

We will leave you with an important message from Gabe Suarez:

http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2017/10/the-lessons-of-las-vegas.html#tpe-action-posted-6a0133ec985af6970b01b8d2b13c2a970c

I would urge you read his material.

I would also urge you to carry concealed.  All the time now.  Do not become a victim.  Do not become a statistic.

— apologies for this being a bit distracted, but take each sentence and read them as 160 character text messages.  Perhaps then it will make more sense to the “computer indoctrinated” world.

 

The Arrogance of the Left

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The arrogance of the these Left wing kooks never ceases to amaze and astound me.

At the bottom of this editorial is a link.  I urge you to read it.  But. pease, do not feed the trolls.  Read it, understand what this fool is saying, and then comment here or on the American Patriot Reality Check Facebook Page.  (https://www.facebook.com/AmericanPatriotRealityCheck/)

Here’s a guy who out and out says exactly what we’ve been saying all along. That the “State” will “come take out guns” through the use of “militarized police”.

He goes on to state how he coolly handles those of us who say “You can have my guns when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers”. He says, “Oh, they will, and you’ll be dead in a pool of your own blood”.

Where his arrogance ends however is that we aren’t in this to play dead, or get dead, or to be the first to fire the “next shot heard ’round the world”.

We are in this for our Rights. Yes, that “Second Amendment” Right, and his blithering idiot “First Amendment” right. And all of the other of the first ten in the Bill of Rights.

The government, and it’s minions have NO rights to come take the guns “For the common good”. This is not a “Commonwealth”. America is neither a Monarchy where we are all “subjects” to a king, nor a Socialist State (Although so many of them like to THINK we are).

America is a Representative Constitutional Republic. We are not ruled by theocrats, autocrats, kings, emperors or the people we send to Washington, to the Capitols or the County Seats. We rule OURSELVES through those we place in office.

If, at this point the Left, Politicians and political appointees wish to test this theory, then Thomas Jefferson, one of America’s first “Bad Asses” said it first and I’ll repeat it for emphasis…. and I quote, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Please, JIM KARGER, please understand that you too will be one of the masses lying there in a pool of your own blood, shot dead by the other side because you chose the wrong side to stand. And truthfully, you may fall victim to your beloved “State” because the second that most-hated “Second Amendment” goes away, you have nothing left to protect your “First Amendment” from the “State” masters.

Be the American Public so misguided, so ill-informed and so uneducated that they believe only that which is fed them by the media, the so-called Fourth Estate? The Media, the Press, the people who stood toe-to-toe with corrupt politicians in the past now stand behind them and take whatever they are fed, and then in turn feed that to a populous of sheep?

Another thing Mr. Jefferson said was, “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

Right he was. Until the future came upon men and women mindlessly caught up in the Battle of the Stars, Television and all sorts of other distraction.

I leave you with these thoughts my friends… be you a wise man, or poor, rich or idiot, none can do better for their country than to stand by it in tough times. That you stand by your country does NOT mean you follow all the laws, corrupt as they may be, or orders from on high, placed upon you as if you were a subject to a King. None of us are by birth slaves. No one in this country living today is a slave and none of shall be slaves again. But if, like Mr. Karger, one chooses such a path then Sam Adams said it best.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams

When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over

Why there is a problem with gun laws

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Why do you need to own an ugly black rifle capable of shooting 2-4 rounds per second with the mere pull of a trigger?

Why do you need to be able to buy a thousand rounds?

Why do you NEED high capacity magazines?

I have a better question.  Why do you ask?

Seriously though, when I am asked these questions, sometimes it is difficult getting through to the people who ask.  They are asking the questions rhetorically and do not require, nor even WISH you give an answer.  In fact, they want you to splutter and hem and haw, and feel threatened and guilty.

Why are there gun control laws to begin with?  Why are there people on a no-fly list who can purchase guns?  Why are there people who should be in mental institutions who can purchase weapons?

These are the better questions.

The BEST question though is. if  criminal commits a crime using a gun, say, murder, why isn’t he adjudicated as a murderer and executed? Why aren’t people who are mentally defective put in mental institutions?

So many questions, so few answers, right?

Wrong.

Let’s look at the last questions first.

Because people believe that folks who are mentally deranged shouldn’t be placed in institutions.  Do-gooders for the past hundred years have fought to remove people from mental institutions and indeed, shut down such places.  The same people fought to have “privacy” added to medical records.

Now they wish to reverse this trend.  They would love to know if everyone out there is considered “sane” or not… but it’s not their business any more.

Then, they would like to ask you questions at the doctors office (and I have experienced this personally, so this isn’t some vacuous statement) about your ownership of guns; or whether you have “recently felt like harming yourself or others”.

Let me address the title; no-fly lists.  How does one even get ON a no-fly list?  And why are they on it?  Because they might blow up a plane with a 4 ounce bottle of shampoo?  Or because you spoke out against the US government because you’re dissatisfied with their work ethic?

Both, actually.  If you are a terrorist, you might wish to blow up a plane and perhaps you’ve made it clear, because, for instance you MIGHT belong to Islam.  Islam has made it abundantly clear they wish to kill Americans (and Jews, and Europeans, and Whites, Blacks, Asians, whomever, and wish to do so with impunity… because you’re an INFIDEL).  And you might have made a statement against the US government for their over-reaching, heavy-handed nonsense and you’re questioning their ability to be useful any more.

And with good reason.  You’re an American Citizen questioning the government, because YOU are a watchdog.  YOU are supposed to question the country’s leaders as a dutiful citizen.  Making sure they are doing their job, and doing it for the benefit of the people, and not themselves.

If you’re a terrorist you should BE on a no-fly list, in particular to prevent further training as a terrorist, and secondarily to that to prevent you from blowing up the damned plane.  You should NOT be able to purchase a gun.

If you’re a citizen questioning your government, you should NOT be a no-fly list, no matter which politician, party or group is running the White House this week.  In fact, you should not be on that list, you should NOT be questioned about your questioning, and you SHOULD be allowed to purchase a gun.

Or ten of them.  Or a hundred.

You should not be considered a threat, mentally defective, you should not be considered a person of interest and should be left the hell alone.

In the United States you have a right to your opinion, to express it, Freedom of Speech, Assembly, and to cross state lines and come and go as you please.  No one should be bothering you.

The second you actually commit a crime of course, that all goes out the window.

Now – I’m not going to answer all the above questions.  But I’m going to explain this, carefully for the slow readers out there….

If you are not a criminal (and that includes people who have committed non-capital offenses in the past and have served their time) should not be denied their rights.  They should not be placed on watch lists.  They should not be denied guns, freedom of speech, travel or assembly.

The Progressives in this country (Read: Liberals/Marxists/Communists/Libtards/Democrats and morons) are using words to push their agenda.  They want to be able to place ANYONE on a no-fly, watch list and thereby prevent them from buying, holding, using, storing or otherwise have rights to guns.

In other words, the idea of background checks is to see if someone doesn’t meet a certain criteria;  that criteria will be decided by whome EVER is in charge of the current government, be it GOP, Democrats, Obama, Leftist, Rightist, Libertarian, Marixist, Commie, Pinko or whatever….

Therein lies the problem.

Everyone wants to TRUST the government and it’s time to distrust them with all your hearts.

Our government is supposed to be by the people and for the people; not for themselves, not for profit, not to control us, not to have power.

Do not trust a politician who says they will “ban guns”.  Or implement regulations to “check backgrounds” because quite honestly, who is going to watch the watchers?????

You see, we already have several thousand gun laws on the books, federal, state, local, wish lists and made up stuff that some local “authority” can invoke at their whim.  Those rules, laws, city regulations, county statutes are all there for one thing.  To prevent you and me from having a normal, healthy, happy life pursuing whatever business we like, go where we wish and drink the beer we like.

You see my friends gun control isn’t about guns.

It’s about control.

No-fly lists are great if you’re preventing terrorists.  Not so good if you’re preventing granny or grandpa from boarding a plane to go home for Christmas.  Or stopping Joe Blow because he happens to have expressed dissatisfaction with a government policy of allowing in random illegal immigrants (who didn’t go through normal regulations and procedures to get into the country).

Our country is under siege.  Siege from illegals, from terrorists, from people who want to “change” our country to something it is not, and was never intended to be.

We are here to prevent the latter, more than anything.  And we will do so.

No more gun laws will be enacted.

No more “refugees” will be let in, or they will be run out.

NO more Obamas in office.  No more Clintons in office.  They had their day. And have ruined our country.

If you don’t like guns, by God move someplace where guns are already illegal.  If you don’t like the idea this is a Capitalist country, move to a Communist country.  I was here first, and my country was the way it was before you tried to screw it up.  If you don’t like the fact you can’t get some rich guys money split up amongst all your homies… then homie, move the fuck out of my country and leave the guys alone that have the money.

Those guys create jobs.  Or maybe you should just get a job?

The greatest problem with gun control is that anyone can be placed on a list, adjudicated as mentally defective and prevented from exercising their rights.

Obama Planning Executive Order for Gun Control

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You’ve been warned time and time again.

Americans on both sides of this particular strategic fence.

Americans with guns have been warned the Left is going to go all out to ban guns before Obama leaves office.

Americans on the Left, the gun-banners have been warned NOT to go for broke.

Now it is coming down to the wire, Obama is on his way out (because he IS leaving office whether he wants to or not, and regardless of Leftist conspiracy theories about G W Bush trying to remain in office, it’s NOT going to happen with Obama).

Another shooting happened yesterday, implemented by a Muslim extremist.  Which is to say “A Muslim, or man of Islam”.  Interesting how they keep saying it was “Domestic Terrorism” because he’s an American Citizen.

Interesting how they keep going after the guns, isn’t it?

Interesting how they want to go after cops and disarm them as well, isn’t it?

Isn’t it interesting how the Second Amendment is now “stupid” to some of the media darlings like Whorealdo Rivera….

Friends;  Americans, Arm yourselves.  ISIS had their hands in the middle of this attack, and I wouldn’t be surprised now if Obama himself didn’t have his hands in it somehow.

It is, however coming.  Obama is planning an executive order to control who can get a gun.  And we ALL know it will be applied impartially and fairly don’t we?  Right…. and chickenshit won’t make you sick if you eat it.

I personally believe that government is a requirement for civilization.  I DO NOT believe a BIG Government is necessary.  I DO believe that the Constitution is the highest law of our country and the President is there to support and defend that Constitution and the current idiot in the White House is neither defending it, nor supporting it and is in fact negating it, usurping power for himself and for the government and is culpable in the deaths of those people yesterday.

Obama is a Traitor to America and it’s high time the Congress took him out of the position he is in before he causes even more danger for this country.

His “Change” has become undeniably evil, Marxist and he has placed this country in danger of an internal civil war over guns, race, illegal immigration and has enabled foreign powers to undercut us in military strength, has over-reached spending and government to a point never before seen in the history of the world.

The danger to this country comes at a time when Russia is threatening the US on a daily basis as well as NATO in general.  Islam is NOT what it is touted to be, and Obama is as responsible for this as any other Muslim.

He is no longer President in my view.  He is a Liar, a thief, Traitor and a Muslim — all on a grand scale.

He must go.  If Congress does not remove him forthwith, there will be a severe danger to this country, the infrastructure and we will become vulnerable to war from the outside.  China, North Korea, Cuba, Russia and the entire Muslim population of the planet awaits the weakening of this country to the point that will allow them all to attack us with impunity.

At some point there will be an “incident” which will be precipitated by Islam’s fanatics, which in turn will put thousands in danger of even going outside.  Martial law may be declared at that point making it difficult to travel or move around across state lines.

When that happens…. expect the absolute worst.  On the bright side of all of this will be police, firemen, military and civilian leaders who will do all they can to put a stop to it.  There are too many people still in the government who will NOT stand for allowing it to happen.  Someone in there will do something, and they will all be purged.

Watch and see.

 

President Obama Planning Executive Order to Expand Background Checks for Gun Purchases

 
December 3, 2015 4:55 pm

Rather than tackle the root of the issue causing the overwhelming majority of terrorist attacks in America — radical Islam — Obama continues to be a good little prog and push forward the agenda to shred our Second Amendment rights to bits.

In light of the San Bernardino mass shooting — which by the way, was composed of a freshly married Muslim couple — is looking to create yet another executive order to make it more difficult to buy firearms at a gun show.

Because background checks have done such a stellar job of stopping crazy people from doing bad things so far, right?

From LA Times:

White House officials are seeking a way to use executive authority to close the so-called gun show loophole that allows thousands of people to buy guns each year without a background check, but complicated legal issues have slowed the process.

Almost three years ago, President Obama asked Congress to change the law to require background checks for weapons sold at gun shows, but a bill to do so died in the Senate – dashing administration hopes for legislative action to address the loophole.

Efforts to use Obama’s executive powers to address the issue took on added urgency in October, when a shooter at a community college in Oregon killed nine people, then shot himself.

Requiring background checks for weapons sold at gun shows might not have had any effect on Wednesday’s shooting in San Bernardino, in which 14 people were killed. So far, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has determined that two of the weapons used in the assault were legally purchased at a gun shop in Corona.

But White House officials and their allies continue to see expanding the background check system as the most promising avenue to reduce at least some of the deaths caused by guns.

“We all have a part to play,” Obama said, including “legislators” in the list of those who must work to make it more difficult for violent people to get access to weapons.

“Right now, it’s just too easy.”

Notice how this said background checks likely wouldn’t have prevented the shooting — or any of the others — yet the utter lack of success with said method of “gun control” isn’t going to deter them from implementing more.

They’re essentially trying the same solution to the problem, despite knowing this particular solution will fail, but because it helps push their agenda, they’ll do it anyway.

That, my friends, is the definition of insanity.

I’ve said it before, but what the heck, I’ll say it again:

We don’t need gun control. We need terrorist control.

And we just so happen to have millions of certified terrorist control experts at our disposal if only we’d send them out and let them do their jobs.

Unfortunately for us, that goes against the liberal playbook so it won’t likely happen with this president in office.

San Bernardino California Shootings – 2 December 2015

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Edit: Just reported: One of the San Bernardino shooters is Farooq Saeed per police radio chatter.

I have been warning in this forum and others for Americans to ARM themselves.

We now have a mass casualty event in California, the number one anti-gun, gun-free zone in the United States.

Details are very sketchy, but we know this:

At 11:00 AM California time, at least three men, possibly dressed in black clothing and carrying “long guns” and “tactical stuff” walked into a building in San Bernardino, CA and began shooting people.  The even lasted approximately three minutes and these apparently well-trained terrorists vacated the premises, jumped into a dark SUV of some sort.

The faces of the men were covered by masks.

Fourteen people are dead, dozens more are injured.

Phones were shut down for some reason. (This was just reported as I am listening to the news, information coming from witnesses).

A week ago, or just less I warned people to carry weapons.  Apparently Americans aren’t listening.  Why are you not listening?

This event was a planned event.  It was either:

A) ISIS

B) Al Qaeda

C) Obama planned or Hillary Clinton Planned to bring out the big guns against Guns.

These were military trained people.  This was a barbaric act.  These men are most LIKELY ISIS.

They walked in and murdered a lot of people and left without being seen by authorities.  They planned this well, and they got away with it.

If this is an Obama-Thing, it is an evil thing.  The men, I promise you were not 40-something-White-Christian, Right-Wing, Gun-Owning Males.  I PROMISE you they were not.

These were hired men who did this mission to call out the Congress to attack guns in America, or they were ISIS terrorists.

My money is on the latter, and my hopes and prayers is that these were NOT people working for the current political establishment.

If, however, tomorrow suddenly Congress is meeting to address this issue and putting out various bills to ban guns, then you can bet your ASS Obama and the Presidency is involved.  (He did say he was planning to take care of the “gun problem” in America before he left office…).

If that’s the case, my friends, America is in very, very deep shit and we’re about to go to war internally.  There will be a Civil War over disarming American Citizens.  Hillary wants it. Obama wants it.  Various others want it. Some in Congress, and every Liberal and Progressive out there wants guns banned.

Americans… ARM YOURSELVES.  Liberals, either you’re with the Constitution or against it.  Progressives… don’t go there.  Military personnel, watch your orders.  Cops, watch your orders.  Constitutional Means Constitutional.  Oath Keepers, keep them straight.

Christmas is coming and so is ISIS.

Now, for those who do NOT believe this country was based on Christianity…. look around you, look at Islam and what they want to do to this country.  Look at terrorism as a whole, not breaking it down or comparing it to the very, very few “White Christians” who’ve done insane things.  Look at the MILLIONS killed by Islam.

Look at yourself and know… Civilization is going to fall if we Americans do NOT stop this.

 

Obama, Hillary Toying With ‘Civil War’ Over Gun Confiscation

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Original: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/02/daily-beast-obama-hillary-toying-civil-war-gun-confiscation/

by AWR Hawkins2 Nov 20158,245

On November 2, The Daily Beast pointed to recent statements from President Obama and Hillary Clinton regarding the implementation of Australian-style gun confiscation and suggested “civil war could erupt on American soil” if any administration actually tried to confiscate privately owned firearms.

The Daily Beast theoretically agreed that “confiscation on a massive scale” may be “the only way to solve American gun violence,” but they pointed out that it was not realistic and suggested Hillary risks causing irreparable divisions by talking about confiscation then mocking gun owners as conspiracy theorists waiting for “black helicopters” to come take their guns away.

According to The Daily Beast, confiscation was workable in Australia because there was no Second Amendment and the government only had to take 650,000 guns. That is a far cry from the “350 million” believed to be in Americans’ hands.

Yes, “350 million.”

But even more important than the number of guns is the depth of American “devotion” to them. And The Daily Beast observes that it is this devotion–this dedication to the philosophy and tradition underlying the right to keep and bear arms–that turns the mere mention of confiscation into something that could literally rip the country apart.

The Daily Beast put it thus, “The prospect of confiscation—as much as it might, theoretically, reduce drastically or even eliminate gun crime altogether—is simply impossible in the United States.” They pointed to statements by Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson, who stressed that Jews could have curtailed the Holocaust had they retained their guns. The Daily Beast suggests Carson hit on something “Second Amendment enthusiasts are fond of arguing,” namely, “that gun rights are enshrined in the Constitution not only for the sake of hunters or people who want to protect their homes and businesses from criminals, but also to allow the population to resist an overreaching government.”

Breitbart News previously reported that Founding Father James Madison used Federalist 46 to make that very point–that armed citizens could band together and resist their government, should it tend toward tyranny. And he pointed out that this demonstrated American exceptionalism inasmuch as citizens of other nations, lacking arms, also lacked the ability to resist.

The Daily Beast addressed the way Hillary mentioned confiscation only later to mock gun owners for fearing the government might come after their guns:

Clinton can joke all she likes about Americans fearing “black helicopters” taking their guns away, but it is no exaggeration to suggest that civil war could erupt on American soil were the U.S. government to attempt anything remotely resembling what was done in Australia.

The column in The Daily Beast is aptly titled, “Yes, They Want to Take Your Guns Away.”

Follow AWR Hawkins on Twitter: @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.com.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm…-confiscation/

Doomsday Clock

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Doomsday clock inches forward to three minutes from catastrophic Midnight


The end of civilisation is nigh, according to ‘doomsayers’. Picture: Thinkstock. Source: News Limited

DOOMSAYERS, prepare your bunkers. The ‘Doomsday Clock’ is ticking.

The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, a group founded by the creators of the atomic bomb, say the world is now three minutes from a catastrophic midnight and the closest it has been in 30 years.

The clock moved forward two minutes, citing global warming and the proliferation of nuclear weaponry as the world’s greatest threats.

Atomic testing in the 1950s saw the Doomsday Clock move closer to midnight than it has ever been. Picture shows testing in the Australian outback. Source: News Corp Australia

“This is about Doomsday; this is about the end of civilisation as we know it,” Bulletin executive director Kennette Benedict said.

“The probability of global catastrophe is very high, and the actions needed to reduce the risks of disaster must be taken very soon.”

The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists was created in 1945 and the clock first appeared two years later on the Bulletin’s magazine cover. The minute hand has moved as far from midnight as 17 minutes (1991) but was once just two minutes away (1953).


Climate scientist Richard Somerville said a ‘major climatic disruption’ could be imminent. Picture: Cliff Owen / AP Source: AP

The last time the clock was at three minutes to midnight was in 1983 during the Cold War between the US and the Soviet Union.

Richard Somerville, a member of the 20-member board of scientists at the Bulletin, said the burning of fossil fuels will lead to a “major climatic disruption globally”.

‘The urgency has nothing to do with politics or ideology,” Dr Somerville said.

“It arises from the laws of physics and biology and chemistry”.

 

See the book on “Basic Survival and Communications Skills in the Aftermath”.  Kindle digital format.

http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Survival-Communications-Skills-Aftermath-ebook/dp/B00Q3ZWRIE

 

 

Arming Terrorists and Disarming Americans

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Arming Terrorists and Disarming Americans

Arming Terrorists and Disarming Americans

New Jersey –-(Ammoland.com)- As a prospective military strike against the Syrian regime dominates the headlines, we are reminded by administration officials that any military action will not include boots on the ground and will not be focused on regime change.

In a turn of events mimicking an episode from the Twilight Zone, once-hawkish Republicans are advocating non-intervention and their peacenik colleagues across the aisle are actually supporting a military strike in the Middle East.

While Congress debates whether to physically attack the Assad Regime, many lawmakers are reevaluating whether to send military aid to the Syrian rebels. A limited military strike “also fits into a broader strategy that can bring about over time the kind of strengthening of the opposition,” Obama told congressional leaders at a White House Meeting on Sept. 3, 2013. This comes months after the House and Senate Select Committees on Intelligence voted to approve the President’s plan to arm the Syrian opposition.

On the Verge of World War III

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The article at the bottom of my comments is a couple of days old, it’s from Debka – so it’s not the best source but is probably accurate. Basically we’re looking at the following states being involved in this as things heat up:

Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, Russia, China

Australia, Canada, France, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Turkey, the United Kingdom and the United States of America

France is “waiting” for more information from the UN.
UK is really “just waiting”.

Russia has moved about 8 ships total toward the Med. The US has moved a few subs, some destroyers into the Med and the Nimitz Carrier group to the Gulf.

Obama is preparing the country for an attack, “limited in scope and duration”, promising “no boots on the ground”. Anyone who has been in the military KNOWS this isn’t true, isn’t going to be true and can’t possibly work. Anyone with even a limited sense of tactics understands you don’t telegraph your moves to the “enemy”. Anyone with even a rudimentary grasp of strategy knows you don’t put all your eggs in one basket when planning any sort of an attack. And anyone with a clue about life understands you don’t go to war for no good reason and you certainly don’t do it if you can’t PROVE you have a good reason. Obama has not proved anything.

The Senate committee just delivered the Resolution to go into Syria to the full Senate. Congress, both houses will debate and vote likely next week on this.

We’re standing on the verge of World War III – without a “draft”, without American support, without support of the majority of Congress – and we’re less than a week away from September 11. Rumors are rampant on the Internet that there’s more than meets the eye here, and the country is “confused” according to our so-called “leader” Obama.

First he sets a “Red Line” then when the bad guys cross it a month ago, it takes time to verify this, and now he’s ready to go into a limited in scope and duration “war” against the Assad regime, to apparently punish the regime, but to give a leg up to verified enemies of America – Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood and other Muslim lunatics. Iran is saying how they will “bring it” to the US. Russia is backing Syria. Syria is claiming their own allies now. The Chinese are going to back the Russians. Obama has castrated our military in recent months through the shut down of units, bases, equipment, and firing of men smarter than himself.

The United States is being set up for failure big time by this man. Americans, whom for the most part are opposed to this “action” in Syria are caught in the middle of all of the forces massing on the horizon.

America is, from intelligence, full of leaderless Islamic cells – from Iranian Revolutionary Guard to Hezbollah, to Al Qaeda. Americans are being disarmed in some states including my own, in an attemp(?) to make us more vulnerable to outside forces.

It is time to stand up and be heard. It’s time to remove this asshat from the White House. It’s time for his Impeachment to begin. Get on the phone and start making the case with your members of Congress. We have to stop this guy from bringing the nukes down on our heads for his own ego.

« Breaking News »

Syria’s Muqdad threatens World War III for US strike
DEBKAfile September 4, 2013, 5:22 PM (GMT+02:00)

Syria’s deputy foreign minister Faisal Muqdad said Wednesday his regime would not give in to threats of a US-led military strike, even if a third world war erupts. In an interview with AFP, Faisal Muqdad said his government had taken “every measure” to counter a potential intervention aimed at punishing the regime of Bashar al-Assad over a suspected deadly poison gas strike, was mobilizing its allies and would take every measure “to retaliate against… aggression.”

DEBKAfile: This is the first time a regime official has intimated that Damascus has invoked the mutual defense pacts existing between Syria, Iran and Hizballah.
http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/5612/

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Strange Bedfellows: ACLU and NRA Sue US Government

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NRA backs ACLU spying lawsuit over gun registry fears

Published September 05, 2013

FoxNews.com

The National Rifle Association on Wednesday filed an amicus brief in federal court supporting an American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit challenging a government phone-tracking program that collects the telephone records of millions of Americans.

The brief argues that the National Security Agency’s phone records collection program could “allow identification of NRA members, supporters, potential members, and other persons with whom the NRA communicates, potentially chilling their willingness to communicate with the NRA.”

The ACLU’s lawsuit — which names as defendants the heads of national intelligence as well as the agencies they lead, including the National Security Agency, the FBI, the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice — argues the phone record collection program disclosed by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden is unconstitutional.

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Wag the Dog?

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Is this entire Syrian issue with Chemical Weapons a cover up?

Seriously, Obama, almost a year ago stated what “the red line” was.

A year later – well in August it turns out that chemical weapons were used.  And they were used BEFORE that apparently and we did nothing.  Now we MUST do something?

What happened to the 27 or 30 scandals?  Oh, yeah, they aren’t in the news suddenly are they?

Benghazi is being ignored by the media. Deaths of Navy Seals, ignored.  The IRS scandal, ignored.  The NSA spying, ignored.  Project Gun walker and Fast and Furious, completely forgotten now… Obama has lied time and again to the American public.  Kerry has lied, over and over.  Hillary Clinton lied.  The IRS Director lied.  Eric Holder lied.

Or is this something worse, a method by which the asshole-in-chief manages to bring us to the brink of a nuclear war with Russia just so he and Putin can make nice-nice on the sidelines and “fix” the whole world, bring “peace in our time” or make himself appear to be larger than life?

What if this is all a giant hoax perpetrated by Obama and his puppet masters?

What if…..

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Tom Coburn happy he doesn’t have to impeach Obama

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The Republican Senator, Tom Coburn said President Obama is moving “perilously close” to impeachment, Sen. Tom Coburn told a town hall crowd this week, two reports said Thursday.

However, he stated he is a “friend” to the President and further went on to say:

“That’s not something you take lightly, and you have to use a historical precedent of what that means,” he said. “I think there’s some intended violation of the law in this administration, but I also think there’s a ton of incompetence, of people who are making decisions.

“I believe [an impeachment charge] needs to be evaluated and determined, but thank goodness it doesn’t have to happen in the Senate until they’ve brought charges in the House,” Coburn said. “Those are serious things, but we’re in a serious time. I don’t have the legal background to know if that rises to high crimes and misdemeanor, but I think they’re getting perilously close.”

 

Really, Senator?  Thank “Goodness” you don’t have to “deal” with it?  Let someone ELSE “deal with it”?

Senator, you’re not a man, you’re a coward.  If you had the intestinal fortitude to follow through you’d be working with House members to arrange exactly what you’re talking about, IMPEACHMENT – and the eventual removal of this criminal from the Office of the President.

America has gone over the edge and you are sitting in the People’s building being HAPPY you don’t have to DO anything over Benghazi, over Ft. Hood Massacre (It was a bloody TERRORIST ATTACK).  We are going to let Obama NOT take the blame for NSA, the IRS, the DOJ (I’m not going to name all the scandals here, but suffice it to say they were ALL CRIMES!)

Get off your lazy ass and get going on removing this criminal from office before American burns.

Every, single tag and category attached to this blog post had a crime committed against America – from the President speaking out AGAINST Zimmerman and FOR gun control, to Benghazi, to the IRS (which is being ignored) to the NSA (also being ignored) to the “sequestration” and loss of food for wounded warriors at Walter Reed while Gays are being given free leave to go marry their partners in other states.

Give Americans a break, Senator and kick this bastard out of OUR HOUSE – before we do it.

 

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Impeach Obama!

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That’s all…  Just impeach the bastard.  Over Benghazi. Over IRS.  Over NSA.  Over all the scandals.  Over all the lies.  Impeach the man.

America needs to be repaired.

Sovereign Citizens Murder Plot: Devon Campbell and Devin Brutsche charged with plotting to kill Vegas police

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Interesting turn of events…..

Devon Campbell Newman (left) Devin Allen Brutsche (right)

/ Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department via CBS affiliate KLAS

(CBS/AP) LAS VEGAS – A couple spent hundreds of hours over four months plotting to abduct, torture and kill Las Vegas police officers as a way to attract attention to their anti-authority “sovereign citizens” movement, police said.David Allen Brutsche and Devon Campbell Newman attended training sessions about sovereign citizen philosophy, shopped for guns, found a vacant house and rigged it to bind captives to cross beams during interrogation, and recorded videos to explain their actions and why officers had to die.

The movement they were intending to promote does not follow U.S. laws.

At every step, police said Thursday, an undercover officer was with them, documenting and recording the alleged plot.

 

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UN Planning World Wide confiscation of Weapons

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Apparently the United Nations Office for Disarmament Affairs has released a new letter.

If anyone in America THINKS they are going to take our weapons, they have another THINK coming.  In the form of hot lead.  Do NOT let the Leftists in the United States kid you one little bit.  They want your complete and utter subjugation and will stop at nothing to get it.

We ARE at war over this.  The first shots were fired in Sandy Hook, lest anyone forget this.  There are plenty of reasons to believe that was a set up.  To date, no one has proved beyond a shadow of doubt that the shooter was Lanza.  No one. 

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Watch: Marine Colonel Warns: “Homeland Security is Pre-Staging Gear and Equipment”

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Mac Slavo
August 15th, 2013
SHTFplan.com

We live in a seemingly free country, so we’re told. But that may be because the majority of us have never spent time in a war zone or highly secured police state-like environment.

Few of us understand what it looks like when military and state intelligence assets take over.

Those who do understand, and have themselves implemented such plans in other countries, see exactly what’s going on and they are sounding the alarm (often falling on deaf ears).

In Concord, New Hampshire the local police chief has filed a requisition with the Department of Homeland Security to beef up his police force with a Ballistic Engineered Armored Response Counter Attack Truck to quell any disturbances initiated by activists or other potential domestic terrorists. In response, the residents held a city council meeting, prompting a retired Marine Colonel to weigh in.

He was formerly a coordinator tasked with manning, training and equipping the Iraqi Army throughout the northern provinces, and he candidly shares his insights and compares the nationwide lock-down in Iraq to what’s happening right here at home.

This is coming from someone who knows – someone who has seen exactly how a population is put under control by means of surveillance and force – and he suggests that what they did in Iraq is child’s play compared to what’s happening in the Land of the Free today.

My job was to man, train and equip the Iraqi Army in Al Anbar, Najaf, Karbala and the northern provinces… We did everything we could to make it as strong as possible.

I’ll tell you right now, homeland security would kick their butts in a week.

What’s happening here is we’re building a domestic military, because it’s unlawful…unconstitutional to use American troops on American soil. So, what we’re doing is we’re building a military.

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The way we do things in the military is called task organization. You take a command and then you attach units to it in order to accomplish the mission.

What’s happening is Homeland Security is pre-staging gear and equipment… what they’re trying to do is use standardized vehicles, standardized equipment. 

I saw a picture of the Marathon bombing and there were two officers – they both had identical helmets, flack jackets, weapons… everything I wore in Iraq.

Boston-Manhunt-0413-de(Pictured: Domestic Police Force sweeps the streets of Boston after Marathon Bombing)

What we’re doing here – let’s not kid about it – we’re building a domestic army and we’re shrinking the military because the government is afraid of its own citizens.

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I don’t know where we’re going to use this many vehicles and this many troops.

I can’t believe people aren’t seeing it. Is everybody blind?

(Video via Activist Post / Daily Sheeple)
(Watch at Youtube)

While Americans go about their daily activities- sipping their $4 morning coffees, sharing their pictures on social media sites, talking about the latest draft prospects at the water cooler, and focusing their efforts on acquiring the latest and greatest mobile devices – a sinister government is hard at work behind the scenes to ensure complete access to every detail of our lives, as well as the heavy-handed means to control us should we step out of line.

America, according to Janet Napolitano’s Department of Homeland Security and the various forms of  ”secret” legislation passed by Congress, is now a domestic war zone, so it only makes sense that local police forces, in an effort to sidestep the restrictions set forth by the U.S. Constitution, are being heavily militarized to fight the new threat.

As noted by one DHS Insider, “it has already begun – you’re seeing it now.”

You are the target and millions of government personnel have been tasked with making sure you don’t step out of line by using any means necessary.
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There is only one way to stop Hillary Clinton

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Tuesday, August 13, 2013 3:25

By Lawrence Sellin

If current political trends continue, there are two inescapable outcomes: Hillary Clinton will be elected President in 2016 and, by the end of her eight years in office, the United States will no longer exist.

The Democrat electoral juggernaut cannot be stopped for two reasons.

First, the Democrats seem to have perfected the art of voter fraud and it may now be considered an integral component of their national campaign strategy. The results of the 2012 election suggest that massive voter fraud is not required. Selective alteration of the count in specific precincts of large swing states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida would be enough. That might help explain why Democrats, especially Hillary Clinton are vehemently opposed to voter ID requirements.

In parallel, the mainstream media will censor or manipulate the news in order to promote Hillary’s political ambitions, even at the expense of their own journalistic integrity and the well-being of the country.

Additional factors that will contribute to a permanent Democrat majority and a one-party state are the amnesty and the voting rights that will soon be given to 11 million or more illegal aliens.

The extent of corruption in the federal government and our political system is no longer compatible with liberty. Unless there is a significant reversal soon, it is only a matter of time that a catastrophe will be upon us, which will inexorably lead to national collapse and fragmentation.

The Republican Party can no longer be considered a political vehicle capable of providing effective opposition to the far-left policies of the Democrat Party and the propaganda of the establishment media. It too has become a party of big government, which is unresponsive and unaccountable to its constituency.

As a recent example of the tyrannical approach and abuse of power practiced by the political elite, the Republicans have joined with the Democrats to force Obamacare on the American people while at the same time exempting themselves.

In “The Discources” (1517), Niccoló Machiavelli wrote:

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/08/there-is-only-one-way-to-stop-hillary-clinton-2541496.html

 

 

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Will a Military Coup fix America?

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I personally just don’t see a military coup in the United States as an option.  But is my view of the world the same as others’ beliefs?  Probably not.  When it comes right down to it, with my vast amount of time as a military man, from my point of view, I can’t say that absolutely, definitely a coup could or would take place.  The truth is, in MY time, no such thing could have or would have happened.  But other factors are in play here that I would never have considered myself – but others might.

The Spanish have a long and storied history for coups – in fact, Mexicans and most Previously-ruled-by-Spain Central and South American countries follow suit.  When the people get mad, they start a war.  Someone winds up on top in the end, usually the existing military and a strong leader (regardless of his moral and ethically leanings).  Most south and central American countries are what we consider “banana republics”.

Is America becoming a Banana Republic?

Let us look:

A Banana republic is a pejorative term for a country with a kleptocratic government, often with a primitive economy and sometimes a puppet state of a major power.

The more proper definition being: Banana republic is a political science term for a politically unstable country whose economy is largely dependent on the export of a single limited-resource product, such as bananas. It typically has stratified social classes, including a large, impoverished working class and a ruling plutocracy that comprises the elites of business, politics, and the military. This politico-economic oligarchy controls the primary-sector productions and thereby exploits the country’s economy. (Wikipedia)

kleptocracy: Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, (from Greek: κλέπτης – kleptēs, “thief” and κράτος – kratos, “power, rule”, hence “rule by thieves”) is a form of political and government corruption where the government exists to increase the personal wealth and political power of its officials and the ruling class at the expense of the wider population, often without pretense of honest service. This type of government corruption is often achieved by the embezzlement of state funds.

plutocracy: Rule by the wealthy. We’re technically not being ruled by the wealthy, but then again we are. Rich lawyers are elected thus rich lawyers are in charge of most of the government’s various sectors. Companies lobby for power in the government (and I have no trouble with open markets).

So this author’s guess is that  ARE a Banana Republic, or more accurately rapidly degenerating into a Banana Republic. We still have a Constitutional Republic and most of us KNOW this and MOST of us wouldn’t do anything against “the government” in the military. Whether some rogue officer would start something, I just don’t know – but I just can’t SEE it happening.

On the other hand…

1) Morals are in decline.
2) America is in decline.
3) Money is becoming worthless.
4) The economy is tanking.
5) Things are not worth what they once were.
6) People are in “gimme gimme” mode.
7) The President himself is working to divide people of this country.
8) The Left is fighting the Right on guns and every other thing you can imagine.
9) Detroit is the first major city to have fallen.
10) Other cities won’t be far behind.
11) Obamacare will destroy what’s left of the economy.
12) Oil and Coal are verboten.
13) Scandal after scandal has rocked DC and those are being called “phony”.
14) More people are on government help than are working now.
15) Political corruption
16) Government corruption
17) borders are uncontrolled, the “barbarian hordes” are coming through daily, by the thousands
18) the government coffers are being sucked dry by “entitlements” and the government keeps wanting more from the working people, the “rich” and corporations.

Rome fell for the many of the same reasons; moral decline, political corruption, “barbarian knowledge of Roman tactics” (think about that for a moment), a failing economy, unemployment of the working “class”, decline in ethics and values, natural disasters, barbarian invasion (Hmmmm…. border security?), military decay (not being trained right, and reduction in forces), and many other reasons.

So could a military coup take America back?  I can not answer that question but I can certainly suggest that this country is in a condition which will facilitate such a thing happening.  But will some military officer be able to gain enough power to lead enough American men, who are independent thinkers, into such a one way path?  I seriously doubt it will happen.  I don’t doubt the fall of America is upon us.

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Coffee, Guns and Gratitude

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Starbucks appreciation day for Gun Owners.  Go armed, go get coffee…

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A lesson: These are the times that try men’s souls.

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“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives everything its value.”  Thomas Paine

America the Beautiful.  United States of America.  Old Glory.  Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.  Freedom.  Liberty.  Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for All.  Stars and Stripes.  Play ball! As American as Apple Pie.

All of these words evoke, I hope in each of you, something in your heart of hearts.  The words should bring a vision of what America is supposed to be about, how we should act, and indeed this is how I grew up as a child, either reciting some of the words, singing them in a song or two or hearing the words spoken aloud at some reading or other.

To me, looking out at the Great Pacific Ocean on the left coast, the Atlantic to the East, standing in the Rocky Mountains and seeing the majesty of the vista before me, or riding down the Mississippi in an old Paddle Wheel boat right from the time of Samuel Clemons, fishing in a stream in Kentucky and following the same trek as Daniel Boone himself followed, or standing in the Alamo where Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie and Colonel William Travis died, and listening to the Star Spangled Banner penned by Francis Scott Key standing aboard the HMS Tonnant certainly evokes an emotion that is difficult to explain or to quite be able to put into words.

America was once a great country.  Oh, but how the great have fallen.  As a child we practiced the “Duck and Cover” exercises in kindergarten because America was afraid of the Atomic Bomb and we worked to preserve our children.  We understood the need for “Civil Defense”, and we built our military to stand up to, and defeat if necessary the evil Communists behind the Iron Curtain.  In 1962 we tittered on the verge of world destruction, but thankfully a strong leader in the Presidency, John F. Kennedy stood up to Khrushchev and the USSR finally backed off.

Today we are embroiled in little, petty wars all for the sake of making a President “look good on television”.  (For my friends, sons, brothers-in-arms and fellow military men and women, I realize that war is never petty please forgive my belittling of that thing so heinous to us all).  Really, why are we still spread out over there in the Sand Box taking casualties daily?  Why are we fighting the Muslims there?  Let them kill one another.  Bring the boys back home to rest.

Our country brethren belittle military service, they belittle our flag, they belittle our principles, they treat our Rights as something “offered” to us by the government and freely removed if enough people “just feel they don’t like it”.  Indeed we have men in this country who are so cowardly they will turn you in if they even THINK you are THINKING bad thoughts.  Leftists are rarely right on anything, always emotional about everything, and seek to use emotion, lies, obfuscation and name calling to their advantage.

Patriots in this country, believers in those things I mentioned above, the flag, the country, the strength of character of America are treated as if they are terrorists and ignorant backwoods boys who can’t think for themselves.  We are told “you have blood on your hands” because we believe in the Second Amendment.  We are called “baby killers” because a mentally insane person grabs a gun and attacks innocent people.  We are told we MUST give up our guns because it is for the GOOD of the Children.

The President of the United States speaks on behalf of these cowardly men who think that life must be good to them because the government takes so much from others.  In fact, when a man named George Zimmerman had to defend his own life against a young thug trying to beat him to death, this President, instead of reaching out and asking for calm, carefully, and artfully attempted to racially divide this country into “Black and White”.

This President has used his Executive position to enable the NSA spying on Americans.  He has used the long arm of the IRS to prevent his opponents from seeking and gaining office, or even obtaining donations to his opponents. His buddy in the Department of Justice, Eric Holder has lied outright to the Congress and to the people of this country and essentially murdered people with guns given to the drug cartels.

He is using the very military which our Forefathers feared as a bludgeon on the people of this country by indoctrinating certain officers in the “Social arts” (socialism and humanism) and firing those who do not meet his criteria.

This President, we aren’t even sure was even born in the United States, says one thing, then does another.  There are plenty of other scandals rocking the media today, and yet, nothing sticks to this man and his cronies.  America has become emasculated.  No one has the intestinal fortitude – or big enough balls to stand up and tell it like it is.  No one, no one but us bloggers and Patriots and we’re treated like scum in the bathtub….

The various Agencies and Bureaucratic Leviathans that have been created are given powers over the people, without oversight by our own Congress – because frankly Congress is lazy, they don’t want to work for the people any more – and these agencies use their power of regulation to destroy people’s lives, to shut down businesses, to harm the economy of this country and to destroy the belief in ourselves. Coal and Oil are forbidden to dig up.  Forests can’t be used, or even cleaned up and forest fires become conflagrations that kill people and destroy homes.  And the Global Warming kooks blame men for using oil.

This Leviathan has taken more from the people who work and create jobs it appears now, in an effort to destroy this country from within.  In fact the money taken in taxes from the “wealthy” (as defined by some random bureaucrats)  is redistributed to the “poor” (poor is a misnomer, it’s given to whomever is smart enough to scam the system, because I know poor folks personally that can’t get aid simply because they make a dollar more than poverty level and are white).

The words of Thomas Paine with which I started this piece were meant for men who lived long ago, nearly now forgotten by history.  Men who stood up to tyranny and took away from it a land from which to make a country.  A country that would be a proud and strong place, where immigrants came for over 200 years to make a new life, to work, to escape the poverty of Europe and other places, a county that is now a Banana Republic, run by a Puppet who can’t speak without his puppet masters running his teleprompter.

Perhaps from the words of Thomas Paine those within the sight and sound of this piece will take heart.

If you are to do so, then listen carefully. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.  And we are in a conflict for the hearts, minds and souls of Americans now.

Make no mistake; we are under a soft police state, a soft tyranny.  People aren’t yet being carted to the dungeons, but words are said by those that would disarm us that should make you take stock of your self, your family and your own safety.  There is no safety in this world but that which you give yourselves.  There are no tyrants who can stand against a united and genuine people.  This country is ours.  It doesn’t belong to the Leftists, Socialists, Liberals, Marxists and Communists.  It belongs to a people with Common Sense, it belongs to you and me.

It’s time to take it back.

It’s time to stand up, be heard and not back down.

No more Summer Soldiers and Sunshine Patriots.

This is real, this is Tyranny and it must stop before the trains and carts come to take you away.

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Flakes trying to take your guns

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So… I got into a discussion with a Liberal dufus,  Mark L. Wilt, who really is the most ignorant human being I’ve ever spoken to.  Here’s an example of something he posted in January:

Gun Control Plan – 1/20/2013

This seems the right time to roll out at least part of my plan for sane gun control. Let’s start with a few basics – the 2nd amendment. Our Founders lived in the era of the single shot musket. It look at least a minute for a trained soldier to load and fire a small lead ball three feet. If our forefathers ganged up to rob a modern convenience store with muskets, but with the same fire power of today’s weapons, at least thirty minutemen would have to squeeze into the small store and form a firing line around the front counter with their weapons pointed at the bewildered clerk. “Stand and deliver,” the lieutenant would cry. The proceeds of the the robbery would be, let’s say, around a $120, that is, 4 dollars per man. They would then retire to the nearest tavern, have a couple drinks and call it a day. Nowadays, it’s different. Enough preamble: let a governmental body institute a lottery. For every a gun you turn in, you get a lottery ticket. The collection period lasts for 60 days and then you have the drawing — one ticket, one winner. The prize: one Billion dollars. Have this lottery once a year, twice a year, however long it takes, until we have a SANE number of guns in this country. Hunters can take up the bow and arrow, the spear, throw rocks at the damn elk. http://mlookw.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/gun-control-plan/#comment-210

 

Following is the post where we “got into it” a bit and the subsequent comments and remarks, of course he “blocked” me because, well, that’s the way Liberals are.  After all, they want THEIR free speech, but by God you’d better not disagree or they will prevent you from having your say.  Fortunately, I have my own blog and I can copy and paste, and I can write what I want.  And if this mother fucker (Oh GOD! I called him a NAME! LOL) wants to take my guns – and he says it will happen (so we know their agenda) then by God come and try it. I dare you.  And fuck that part about you paying “taxes” because I’m sure you’re one of those loonies that doesn’t make enough to even get taxes, you’re living off the lifeblood of the rest of us who work our asses off.  Mark : Wilt, you are a Fascists, JUST as I said before:

Gun Owners – 1/8/2013

Most gun owners can’t hit a target a foot away from them. To own a firearm doesn’t mean one knows how to use it effectively. It takes knowledge, hours of training, discipline, and a clear head. Most gun owners are satisfied to attend gun shows, show buddies their arsenals, shoot off their stupid mouths about the 2nd amendment, which they obviously don’t understand, and, oh, yes, shoot puppies who stray into their backyard. My diagnosis: most gun owners are constipated. Blow your opinions out your lower hole so we don’t have to bear their stink.

29 thoughts on “Gun Owners – 1/8/2013”

  1. “Most gun owners can’t hit a target a foot away from them. …. and, oh, yes, shoot puppies who stray into their backyard”

    I guess the run up and stick the barrel against the puppies head and pull the trigger since they can’t hit anything more than “a foot away from them.”

    “Blow your opinions out your lower hole so we don’t have to bear their stink.”

    Yes, and you have set a perfect example of how to do that.

    lwk
    free2beinamerica2.wordpress.com

    • Yes, the usual gun owner must shoot the puppy from less than 12 inches away if he has any hope of hitting it.

      A highly armed but untrained and irresponsible populace is exactly what we have right now and thousands of people are dying every year because of it. Having extremists like you whining for more and more firepower only makes it worse.

      You don’t want guns to ward off “tyranny” anyway. That’s a goddamn lie and you know it. You just want to kill niggers, kikes, spics and six year old children.

      “Blow your opinions out your lower hole so we don’t have to bear their stink.”

      Yes, and you have set a perfect example of how to do that.

      You are very witty.

      When the sane citizens of this country finally regain control over congress, your little tea party will be over. Then your brave rhetoric will be put to the test.

      • “Yes, the usual gun owner must shoot the puppy from less than 12 inches away if he has any hope of hitting it.”

        When I qualified for a concealed carry permit in Texas there was a session at the range to prove some minimal shooting abiity (and demonstrated ability to handle a handgun safely). Since all passed I assure it would not be a good idea to bet your life on the belief they could not hit you at the range most gunfights occur (7 yards or under).

        There was a study a decade or so ago by the FBI where they were looking for a more powerful handgun round. In one place in the study one researcher was concerned about an overly powerful round completely penetrating the crook and going on to hit an innocent person behind him. But then the FBI study conceded they were not very concerned about that because 80% of the time trained FBI agents completely miss their target anyway (in real gunfights, not on the range).

        In Chicago not very long ago several police opened fire on a suspect, missed him, and wounded – if memory serves – something like seven innocent bystanders, some very seriously. Read a story a number of years ago about a policeman and crook opening fire on each other across the hood of a car. Both had semi-auto handguns with “high capacity” magaziness (probably 15+, don’t recollect the story being more specific).

        They both emptied their first magazine at each other, then reloaded and fired their 2nd magazines. No one got hit. Now I would be willing to bet that policeman qualified on the range and was technically capable of hitting the bad guy at that range.

        You want to really understand the problem?

        Read “On Killing” by Dave Grossman. Most people cannot put their front sight on the chest of another person and pull the trigger with the deliberate intent to kill. Apparently there no good tests to figure out beforehand if a person can, or cannot do that. Only way to learn is to have the chance, and to do it.

        In war in the past a lot of soldiers were pretending to fight, but were deliberately missing the enemy, shooting over their heads for example. A number of rifles were found at the battle of Gettysurg with a number of bullets loaded one on top of the other – one had seven (these were muzzleloaders).

        When they counted the total number of rounds fired and compared it to casualties there was a huge disconnect. The NRA was formed after the Civil War to promote civilian rifle practice because of this exact problem. They didn’t have the benefit of Grossman’s research to understand why.

        Beginning in the Korean War a litte, but mostly in the Vietnam War the military learned ways to program people to kill a lot better and overcome this natural in-built psychological resistance to killing. That is why a fair amount of guys from my generation had nightmares for decades.

        Sorry for the longer reply – it is probably wasted in any case. You sound like you have way to much hate to listen.

        lwk
        free2beinamerica2.wordpress.com

  2. Looks I missed some of my reply in copying and pasting. Here is the rest of it.

    “A highly armed but untrained and irresponsible populace is exactly what we have right now and thousands of people are dying every year because of it.”

    Years ago we had rifles in high school. Kids were on the shooting team. Gun safety and training for gun safety was a priority. Today we have the “Gun Free School Zone Act” and many kids grow up without any training whatsoever.

    I have suggested many times we ought to put guns back in schools and teach kids about them. Would do a lot I think to improve the situation, but the “soccer mom” crowd wet their pants at the idea of kids knowing anything about guns (including safety, apparently).

    As to all they “untrained and irresponsible populace” I guess you have never been to a High-Power rifle match where people using just “iron” sights (no optical scopes) routinely hit targets out to 600 yards? Or people in the slow fire standing match will put 10 shots in a cirle you can cover with your hand easily at 200 yards? Try that standing up with your front sight slowly revolving over the bullseye (you can’t possibly hold the rifle absolutely still) and coordinating pulling the trigger as the sight crosses the bullseye.

    Never seen a USPSA (United States Practical Shooting Association) either probably? Go see one sometime and you might be amazed at what your civilian neighbors can do.

    “You just want to kill niggers, kikes, spics and six year old children.”

    One of my older black friends attended my wedding nearly 30 years ago and I work with Israelis every day and have some very good friends who are Jewish. Matter of fact I was in Jerusalem last year for a visit. I also have raised three children, hopefully not too badly. My youngest son is a United States Marine currently serving.

    “When the sane citizens of this country finally regain control over congress, your little tea party will be over. Then your brave rhetoric will be put to the test.”

    I can only say this about your comment. If you understand German, then you can find words very much in tone like what you said above from the 1930s in Germany. The speakers were members of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers’ Party), more commonly known to English speakers as NAZIs.

    And yes, for many Jews in Germany, Poland, Russia, and other Baltic states found their lives were over in places like Auschwitz and Treblinka. A lot of those Germans listened to a rhetoric of hate and had to keep themselves mostly drunk on Schnapps as they herded the naked Jews into the gas chambers.

    You really ought to be very careful what rhetoric you listen to, or spout.

    lwk

    • There are millions and millions of pistols, rifles, shotguns, assault rifles, bazookas, Abrams tanks, God only knows what else, floating around the USA right now that are in the hands of criminals, budding criminals, undetonated psychopaths and other Monsters of the Million Dollar Mile. The NRA has resisited every effort to control the size of this deadly arsenal or to prevent any person no matter how weak, mentally unstable, criminally minded or downright evil from obtaining a weapon.

      If the NRA had any intent of protecting the citizens of the US from themselves, it would demand extensive background checks and firearms training for anyone who purchases a handgun. But no, the NRA responds with “but we do offer training classes to young people on the proper uses of firearms.” Why don’t you organize classes for the Crips and the Bloods and the Street Corner Crack Dealers for a Safer America as well?

      As far as the spectre of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Communism is concerned: there were incredibly brave armed opponents who resisted these movements who were hunted down and slaughtered. A heavily armed populace would have had little effect of the subsequent evils because totalitarian regimes tolerate no dissent whatsoever. You and your little band of “sunshine patriots” would be dead hours after your first rantings against the government, whether on the internet or in a high school English composition.

      Your arguments don’t even rise to the level of speciousness; they are silly. So some of your best friends are Blacks and Jews? There are plenty of guns aimed at Blacks (most of who are also Black), Jews, gays, anyone else on the Whlites Only hit list owned by people less tolerant than you are and you want them to be armed to the teeth. I can’t understand this death wish. I don’t hate anybody. In fact, I want everyone to live out their natural lives without the danger of an untimely death from gunfire. You think the extreme adherence to Second Amendment is worth the sacrifice of thousands of innocent lives. I don’t. I don’t hate you – I just think you’re an idiot.

      > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:16:11 +0000 > To: mlookw@hotmail.com >

      • Here is one comment about your writing style. It is meant to be constructive. Try using paragraphs. It helps a lot in grouping thoughts and arguments.

        You wrote:

        “There are millions and millions of pistols, rifles, shotguns, assault rifles, bazookas, Abrams tanks, God only knows what else, floating around the USA right now …”

        There are millions of revolvers, pistols, rifles, and shotguns in the U.S. right now. No one seems to know how many. Many of them are obsolete. The vast majority of real assault rifles are owned by the government. Legal assault rifles (which can fire in fully automatic mode) are highly regulated and very, very expensive. Their appearance in crime statistics are almost non-existent. The use of illegal fully automatic firearms is also a very, very rare event (there was a Beverely Hills bank robbery shootout some years ago).

        As to bazookas and on up, that is pure imagination. An Abrams tank takes a very complex and expensive support force to function for more than a couple hours.

        “The NRA has resisited every effort to control the size of this deadly arsenal …”

        It depends on your point of view. I see the NRA working to resist bad legislation more aimed at keeping firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens than that of crazies or criminals.

        “A heavily armed populace would have had little effect of the subsequent evils because totalitarian regimes tolerate no dissent whatsoever.”

        The whole idea of an armed citizenry is to prevent it getting that far. As to how it would work today I have no idea. In the days of the Founders a civilian militia army opposing a small professional government army and winning was quite feasible.

        Today I think that opponents would probably more likely model themselves after the Viet Cong or the resistance in Afghanistan where it seems a large part of the strategy is to make parts of the country un-governable by the government.

        “You and your little band of “sunshine patriots” would be dead hours after your first rantings against the government…”

        A bunch of guys playing in the woods with their semi-auto AK-47s and dirty camos are not much real threat. That won’t be the most likely scenario. I am not going to discuss possible scenarios because I don’t want to be seen as an advocate of those methods. No one in their right mind would want to see them in their own neighborhood.

        “anyone else on the Whlites Only hit list owned by people less tolerant than you are and you want them to be armed to the teeth.”

        First off, a lot of people like me entitled to wear the Vietnam Campaign Medal are black, and some of them are my friends. Secondly I think I know some of the people you talk about, or imagine you are talking about, and racism is far from their main motivation. A lot of them, like me, are veterans and have served with black men.

        Racism is not the primary motivation of most people are expressing fear of big government. The media and others though have worked overtime trying to paint that picture. It is simply not true, at least in my personal experience.

        ” You think the extreme adherence to Second Amendment is worth the sacrifice of thousands of innocent lives.”

        I don’t know about the “extreme adherence” part of your statement, what it means to you and what it means to me. But yes, I think the 2nd Amendment is worth something. The 20th century is a history of genocide by governments that first disarmed their people. Millions of people died because they didn’t have any real means to defend themselves.

        Have you ever read this from Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a survivor of the Russian gulags?

        “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”

        Let me say this. If we could drastically reduce the size and power of government so that it was not so much a danger to our freedom, then you might be surprised at what I would support in regards to gun safety. But until that happens the right to keep and bear arms is more important.

        lwk
        free2beinamerica2.wordpress.com

  3. “Enough!”

    Ok. Was just trying to have a polite conversation. Hope that at least in the future you will try to see people who disagree with your views as at least not quite the multiple stereotypes you presented. I won’t continue to post on this thread on your blog.

    regards,

    lwk
    free2beinamerica2.wordpress.com

  4. I have dozens of guns. I dare you to try to take them, even at “1 foot away”.

    By the way, I have training, lots of it. I don’t want to hear any more sissy assed whining about gun owners. Almost EVER gun owner who has one or two guns has training, they practice shooting, they know how to use a weapon and most of them aren’t actually afraid to defend themselves or someone else.

    But the way you portray us “gun nuts”, we’re stupid and “shoot off our mouths”. Truth is, it’s you little fella shootin’ off YOUR mouth, without any knowledge and all you’re doing is showing your complete and utter ignorance.

    • Hi

      Any intelligent, objective person who reads the second amendment understands that the right to bear arms extends only to maintining a well-regulated militia. I’ve copied the amendment here: read the whole thing:

      “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      It’s obvious that Our Founders did not intend for citizens to bear arms unless they were part of “A well regulated Militia”. If the second amendment means something else, then tell me what you think it means.

      Maybe the folks you know know are responsible gun owners, but the friendly street gangs who run most of our country’s cities train their killers on the job. Not that much instruction is needed – the victim kneels, the killer stands behind him and fires a bullet in his skull.

      A sane program for gun control: Ban assault rifes. Toughen registration requiremnets. Make applicants wait until the state thorougly checks their background. ANY indication of previous violence or dangerous mental illness prohibits the applicant from ever owning a gun. Anyone caught with an unregistered weapon does 20 years in prison.

      No more of this concealed carry crap anymore, either. Allow your average guy to strap and he starts to think he’s Dirty Harry and he provokes violence he can answer with his “equalizer”. This lies at the very heart of the Zimmerman case.

      Men who don’t own guns are sisses? That’s pretty weird thinking, buddy.

      The rest of what you say is noise not worthy of comment.

      • /chuckles

        ANY intelligent person reading the Second Amendment will understand that the right to keep and bear arms extends ONLY to the PEOPLE and that right will not be infringed. Specifically, the “well regulated militia” in your own vernacular has nothing whatsoever to do with a military.

        In the vernacular of the founding fathers, “well regulated” mean “well practiced” not “regulated by the government” and in those days it was quite CLEAR that every community had the responsibility to themselves and loved ones to be able to defend themselves on a moments notice.

        This is clear in English Common Law as well as American common law. The right to self defense extends not only to the individual but to the families of those affected and by consequence community itself.

        Where you folks get off parsing the words “the right of the people” OUT of the Second Amendment isn’t beyond me. You do it out of ignorance of the English language.

        There is no such thing as “sane gun control laws”. Gun CONTROL is PEOPLE control. Therefore, by extension you are for controlling people and their actions – which is an affront to Freedom and Liberty.

        We have laws against killing, robbery, rape and the use of weapons in crimes. PROSECUTE CRIMINALS when they commit crimes, do not criminalize me and my family, or the rest of society because you’re scared of “guns”.

        Prosecute the criminals, put them in and keep them in jail. If they kill someone, the death sentence is the only thing that will stop them in future crimes. This has been shown over and over.

        But innocent gun owners who have those “Self Defense Rifles” you folks love to call “assault weapons” who’ve never once committed a crime, never thought about doing a crime and couldn’t do a crime if someone PAID them to do it are to suffer because you want society to change?

        No. YOU change. Get over it.

        By the way, I never said “people that don’t own guns are sissies”. That’s called “putting words in others’ mouths”. Never said it.

        You don’t have a choice to “allow” some guy to “think he’s Dirty Harry” unless you think we should control thoughts too.

        Fascist.

      • Read up on subordinate clauses in the English language then re-read the second amendment. Maybe this is too sophisticated for you, but try really hard and eventually you should understand. I believe in you.

        I do not parse out “the right of the people” at all. They have the right to bear arms if they participate in a “well-regulated militia.” In our modern world the government allows people to possess guns for self-defense and sport shooting. This is fine if the prospective owner undergoes a tough background check and if the weapon is authorized. You can have your little pea shooters if you register them. If you don’t, you bought yourself 20 years hard time.

        I bet you called an AK-47 an “assault rife” before you succumed to NRA propaganda, you poor brainwashed soul.

        Who’s scared of guns? Why are you afraid of registering them? You want any damn idiot to walk into a gun store, buy a lethal weapon, walk out the door not knowing whether he has a history of violent behavior. Thousands of innocent people die from gun violence every yeaar. You and your kindred believe that your mis-reading of the second amendment is worth the lives of these victims. You have blood on your hands, mister!

        “Well Regulated” vs “Well Practiced”? This is a distinction without a difference. How do you know what the Founding Fathers meant anyway? Can you read the mind of people who died 200 years ago?

        Give some men a gun and his ego expands ten-fold. Police departments and the military weed out these whackos the best they can. Only sane, responsible people should possess firearms has the duty, in the name of public safety, to regulate the access to firearms.

        Yeah, yeah, call me a fascist. Extremists call their opponents “Fascists”, “Communists”, “Agents of Satan”, and so forth. Who cares? Nothing but noise. Read LWK’s response to name-calling and take it to heart.

        You called gun control advocates “sissies”, now don’t back away, Mister Flip Flop. Obviously I don’t care what you think of me.

        MARK

      • No, I think that the problem isn’t a subordinate clause, rather your misunderstanding of the phrase “well regulated”. It doesn’t mean what you’re saying it means. It has nothing whatsoever to do with government control of guns.

        Now, where did I call them sissies again? Not in the comments here.

        The cops do NOT weed out “whackos” very well. After all, we have so many whacko cops out there.

        But your left leaning jerks want to even say US military veterans are “dangerous” even though they have massive amounts of training on weapons use (and I’m in that bunch).

        I don’t give a crap about your name calling. I will use what ever words I like, and I’m not going to back down because you call me one… or get all pissy because I called you a fascist. Because, frankly, you’re a fascist and so are ALL gun control “advocates”.

        Oh, and by the way, they ARE sissies too.

        Why should I sit idly by and play the “game” your way, or the way the Left wants me to play it? You know, all Kumbaya and all that crap – why should *I* play nice when the Left doesn’t?

        Shows my IQ? No, not really, it shows my frustration with the fact that since the 1960s you commie bastards (commie, pinko, socialist, progressive, Leftist, fascist – it’s really all the same these days, all interrelated and all working together against what America WAS so don’t bother correcting me) have attempted to discredit the other side with your name calling, and “focus” on your targets.

        Alinsky tactics are well known to both sides now. We know who the enemy is.

        It’s people like you, gun controllers, people who love Obama and faint at the sight of the guy, and people who want to destroy America as it was to make it into some Euro-like-Utopia.

        No. Not happening. Go to hell.

      • “Fascist”, “Sissy”, “Go to hell”. Those are your arguments in a nutshell – all the rest is noise you copy from a crib sheet.

        You risk the lives of innocent people who are dying NOW because you insist people should have absolute, unfettered right to possess firearms when common sense dictates that they should not. Blood is on YOUR hands, but you don’t give a damn about that. You’re a child, a dupe of political opportunists. So spew on! The politicians you support have no respect for you and your ilk. They know you’re idiots. They count on it.

      • :) Really? My “argument” IS pretty lame isn’t it?

        I don’t copy my notes from anywhere else. But let’s examine the Left’s argument.

        What do they say? Oh yeah, “Baby killer”, “Gun Nut”, “Right Wing Radical”, “Murderer”, “Terrorist”.

        So you’re trying to say you don’t like name calling, then your side should stop doing it.

        I HAVE an unfettered RIGHT to own guns. I have fought for this country. Perhaps we ought to limit gun ownership to ONLY those persons who have served in the military?

        I think perhaps we should only allow people to vote who have served in the military.

        I think perhaps the First Amendment needs to be limited. You shouldn’t have access to computers, millions of people, the ability to fax, text and write articles. In fact, when the First Amendment was created, there were muskets and black powder, parchment, quill pens, ink wells and the VERY OCCASIONAL printing press. So by the Left’s Logic, you should be limited to ONLY writing your thoughts down on parchment….

        Blood IS on my hands sonny. Those bastards that tried to kill me so many years ago, who, by the way were communists. But other than them, no, I have never gone out and killed anyone. I’ve never used a weapon in anger. I’ve never shot a civilian.

        The dupe of political opportunists, however, isn’t me. I’m quite aware of political opportunists and they are the people pulling the strings on your own brainwashed commenting.

      • Some damn gun nut slaughtered four people at a town meeting in PA yesterday because the idiot, the brainwashed dupe, didn’t get his way in a land dispute with town officials. More INNOCENT American blood shed because the NRA insanely blocks any sensible gun control. These aren’t little yellow people murdered decades ago thousands of miles away who may or may not have been “enemies”.

        These were innocent Americans who died in our country yesterday. They were exercising their constitution right to peacefully assemble. But the unfettered right for any idiot to possess a gun obviously trumps the right for people to peacefully govern themselves. But those four don’t count, do they? You don’t give a damn about them, and neither do the unscrupulous politicians you blindly follow as they rob suckers like you BLIND!!! “Ha, ha!” they are laughing to themselves as they sip expensive brandy and suck on Cuban cigars. “Maybe we can invite these ‘patriots’ to crawl on their knees and fellate us if we let them join our club.”

      • Some how you think that I believe he should be allowed to have a gun.

        I don’t think so. Was he admitted to a hospital previously? Did he have a criminal record before the shootings? What made him mentally unbalanced? When did he obtain the gun? HOW did he obtain the gun? WHERE did he obtain the gun?

        You leave out all those questions.

        “Sane Gun Control” is hitting your target and not giving up my guns to criminals or to idiots who think *I* should be disarmed because some lunatic went on a rampage.

        Guess what Mark, I don’t CARE that you THINK I should give up my guns for YOUR safety. You will be safer around ME with a gun, than you will be around a CRIMINAL with a gun. I’ll use myself as a typical American – though I’m anything but typical.

        I grew up around guns, hunting, shooting, and fighting in the military. I’m pretty old now. I’ve seen combat and I’ve been shot at more than once when I wasn’t armed myself. By criminals. I grew up for part of my life in Detroit. I got robbed by criminals a dozen times. Almost none of them got anything other than a boot to the ass as they ran.

        One tried to stab me with a knife. I took the knife away. Another did stab me in the leg another time. I used his own knife on him. He was going to kill me. What was I supposed to do? Stand there and TAKE IT?

        No.

        99% of all gun owners never use their weapons.

        Criminals steal weapons, and then sell them to other criminals. No amount of guns laws, background checks, mental evaluations, fingerprinting, breathalyzing, retinal scans, rectal scans, or regulation will STOP criminals from being criminals.

        NONE of that will prevent people like me from owning a gun.

        No, you need to realize that what you want is to simply get rid of all guns. Be honest with yourself and others.

        And confiscation and complete banning are out of the question. There’s NOTHING sane about those things.

      • Over an 18 year period the PA whacko displayed signs of untreated paranoid schizophrenia. Under a sane federal gun control statute, anyone could petition a federal court to require Mr. G. Nutt to undergo a psychiatric exam. If deemed mentally ill, the court could authorize the ATF to confiscate Nutt’s weapons, by force if necessary. The weapons could be returned to him when a panel of psychiatrists determined he is no longer a threat to others.

        Government has the obligation to protect its citizens. We have potential killers among us who for their own twisted reasons pick up firearms and mow down innocent people, including the 21 six year olds slaughtered in CT. How LONG, brothers and sisters, how LONG? Governments require drivers licenses, construction permits, barbers licenses. If you need pain medication, you get it from a licensed pharmacist. Hell, if you want to catch catfish from a filthy canal, you need a fishing license. But a schizophrenic, or an extremist who makes treasonous statements against our government, or a lowly little creep who wants to feel like a “man”, they and others like them are allowed unfettered access to deadly firearms. Use your head for a change: it doesn’t make sense.

        BTW: you were not fighting for your country when you served in Viet Nam. You were fighting for the political aspirations and historical legacies of Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon. How many young men were killed or maimed because neither of these men would admit to be the first US president to lose a war? Was this worth a single human life? Was this worth the slightest flesh wound, a scraped knee? In Viet Nam you fought valiantly for your own life and the lives of your buddies. Unfortunately, you were the victims of lies fed to you by two corrupt administrations, one Democratic, one Republican. To paraphrase the Who, don’t be fooled again.

        > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:27:57 +0000 > To: mlookw@hotmail.com >

      • You know, gun owners like me feel as bad about those children dying in Ct. But some how you folks like to lump everyone together. The truth is, “brothers and sisters” you are not going to take our guns, not without a fight, not without bloodshed – probably yours.

        You need to get it through your head that this isn’t about safety. It is about a RIGHT. Just like the first amendment which you so dearly love, and love to abuse, the second amendment protects your right to free speech.

        Criminals commit crimes. They will do so with or without access to guns. A crazy person will find another way, like using explosives or driving a car through a crowded pier like happened a day or so ago.

        Taking MY guns from me won’t stop criminals and nut cases. But taking MY guns from me prevents me from protecting myself and family from home invaders. It prevents me and you from keeping that freedom of speech you so dearly love.

        Taking my guns, a legal gun owner, from helping YOU keep YOUR freedoms.

        In response to your remarks about fishing, construction and barbers…. why do we need so much regulation? Why force people to get certificaions for computer work? Why do WE allow the government into everything we do?

        I dont like it and most people dont. Regulation is killing this country, it is killing our ability to grow and thrive and it is forcing American into a third world country.

        That what you really want? Because I do not.

        One last thing, you and most others have a very wrong conception of access to guns. In EVERY STATE to purchase a weapon you MUST go through a background check.

        You cant walk into a gun shop and buy one without it.

        To get a concealed carry permit, you must undergo training of some sort, or at least prove proficiency. There are laws we all must follow.

        The kid in Ct. killed his mother allegedly, and took her guns, allegedly, and killed those kids, allegedly. There have been zero release of anything to prove any of it. For all we know someone else did it and dumped that kids body there to make it all look like he did it. None of us knows the truth.

        We only know what the authorities told us.

        I for one no longer believe the bullshit the “authorities” feed us. Neither should you.

        Wake up, we wont give up our guns, not volutarily, and certainly not without a fight.

      • Gun buyers do not undergo a rigorous background check and you know it. Who the hell are you kidding?

        If the government comes after your guns, there are three possible outcomes.

          1) You will surrender them peaceably.
    2) The guns will be taken from you and you will be arrested.
    3) If you resist, you will be shot down like the dog you are.

You rant and rave about your rights, and you don’t give a damn who has to die for your kinky fetish. You are an irresponsible thug, no better than a criminal. Don’t make veiled threats against me!! My blood will stay right where it is. I pay taxes for the police to handle losers like you, so fuck off! You wasted enough of my time, asshole. Consider yourself BLOCKED!

> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 00:20:51 +0000 > To: mlookw@hotmail.com >

  • Btw to the “gun nut” who said you can be mad or be effective, but you cant be both….

    I will point something out. When someone wants thought control, as Mr. Wilt has more than once implied, that, sir, is fascism. Forcing everyone to undergo psychiatric evaluation is nothing more than thought control. Psychatry is not an exact science, you cant with any real degree of certainty determine the mental state of anyone, or even why or what they are thinking.

    The truth is, this type of thing is an attempt to eventually ban all guns.

    I will point out that doctors offices have begun to require patients to fill out mental health forms…. as far as I can determine this is some Obamacare regulation. I refuse to do such a thing.

    Liberals are mostly Progressives and every progressive I know is a closet Communist. Most wont admit it in company of others but the signs are there.

    I call it like I see it, Mark is a fascist if he thinks he can force me to do something against my will.

  • As usual, you missed the point of my post. Why bother arguing any more, you’re an idiot. You WILL lose your guns sometime soon, and if you die defending your “rights”, so be it.

    > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 00:31:18 +0000 > To: mlookw@hotmail.com

     

    • Why do you need a gun like the AR15?

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    Why

    Because, Liberal, fuck you, that’s why!