John Kerry, Chuck Hagel Pitch Syrian Strike to Congress

Top Obama officials must convince skeptical members, public

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September 3, 2013 RSS Feed Print

President Barack Obama meets in the Situation Room with his national security advisors to discuss strategy in Syria. Several top advisors will make the case for intervention to Congress Tuesday afternoon.President Barack Obama meets in the Situation Room with his national security advisors to discuss strategy in Syria. Several top advisors will make the case for intervention to Congress Tuesday afternoon.

Top Obama administration officials heading to Capitol Hill Tuesday are likely to make the case for a military strike in Syria by playing up the importance of U.S. credibility, now that President Barack Obama has called for action.

Secretary of State John Kerry, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are tasked with making the case for the unpopular mission following a chemical weapons attack against citizens by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. They are scheduled to meet with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Tuesday afternoon and the House counterpart Wednesday.

Obama himself continued to press for support in remarks Tuesday morning before meeting with House and Senate leaders at the White House.

“I’ve made a decision that America should take action, but I also believe that we will be much more effective, we will be stronger, if we take action together as one nation,” Obama said.

The president emphasized, as he did all last week, that he does not want to send troops into Syria, but rather pursue a more targeted approach.

“The key point that I want to emphasize to the American people [is] the military plan that has been developed by the joint chiefs – and that I believe is appropriate – is proportional; it is limited; it does not involve boots on the ground,” Obama said. “This is not Iraq, and this is not Afghanistan.”

Doug Bandow, a senior fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute, says Obama’s best hope for winning congressional approval is to continue to emphasize he intends a limited approach.

“I would assume that there would be some division of duties there. That the larger foreign policy context, that’s what you expect from secretary of state and the more practical, what sorts of things do we want to hit and the potential implications, I would expect that more from Hagel,” he says.

Bandow adds that the administration also needs to lean on Congress to support the president so as not to show weakness in the international community.

“The only pitch that works well is American credibility,” he says

Obama scored nominal support for action from House Speaker John Boehner and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor Tuesday, as well as House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.

“I believe that my colleagues should support this call for action,” Boehner said after leaving the briefing with Obama at the White House.

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Russian, Libyan Foreign Chiefs Meet to Discuss Key Issues in Region

While the Russians and Libyans discuss the problems is Syria, Hagel and Kerry are going in front of Congress to ask for “limited strikes” on Syria. Interestingly, it appears that they are pushing this a lot harder than the American public wants them too, even at the risk of dragging Russia into this with the use of nukes.

I know some of you keep saying “Russia won’t nuke us” and so forth – and I hope to God you’re right, but they are playing this game of chess better than Obama, Obama is an incompetent clown and Russia CAN NOT BE TRUSTED FOLKS!

The Truth hurts, but America is no longer the most powerful country on the planet, thanks again to Obama. This is all part of some bigger plan I suppose. You know who is going to suffer? Innocent Syrians, Americans and Russians – and others, when it is all said and done. This will escalate quicker than you can imagine to levels you never thought or believed possible. Brace yourselves, and prepare for the worst. Even if you DON’T BELIEVE ME, believe your EYES and EARS.

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Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has underscored the importance of today’s meeting with his Libyan counterpart, Mohamed Abdulaziz, saying these consultations were instrumental in Russia’s decision-making on the region.

Mr. Lavrov welcomed Libya’s new foreign chief to Moscow, saying the agenda was abundant with urgent issues that must be solved as soon as possible. He also stressed that some of the problems of mutual interest must be followed through at the highest level.

Mohamed Abdulaziz congratulated Russia on successful G20 summit, adding it proved Russia’s key role in the modern world.

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Breaking: US to ignore Russian Proposal

JPOST BREAKING: US official to ‘Post’: Russia proposal to put Syria chemical arms under global control will go ignored

RAGreeneCNN‏@RAGreeneCNN3m
US official calls Kerry remark on #Syria chemical weapons “a major goof,” says he “went off script,” CNN’s @jimsciuttoCNN reports

America is in danger of going rogue under Obama

Jeffrey T. Kuhner
Friday, September 6th, 2013

President Obama is on the verge of plunging America into another war.

Unlike Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, however, bombing Syria would trigger a regional conflagration — one that potentially could lead to a global war. World War I began in Sarajevo. World War III may start in Syria.

Hyperbole? In 1914, Europe became engulfed in a bloodbath. The spark was a conflict in a far-off corner of the Balkans. Britain, France, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Italy, Turkey, Russia and eventually, America — all were propelled into a larger war, resulting in the deaths of millions. By issuing reckless ultimatums, arrogant leaders were sleepwalking their nations into disaster.

Syria is a modern-day powder keg. For over two years, it has been torn apart by a vicious, sectarian civil war. Over 100,000 Syrians have died. Nearly one-third of the population has fled into exile. Iran, Hizbullah and Russia support Syria’s strongman Bashar Assad. The Islamist rebels have the backing of Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Al Qaida. Foreign jihadists have poured in to bolster the ranks of the anti-Assad opposition.

The conflict pits Shi’ite Alawites against Sunni Wahhabites, Muslims against Christians, and Islamic fundamentalists versus Arab secularists. In short, U.S. military intervention risks dragging in almost every major regional power — including Israel — because Assad’s allies have a vested interest in his survival. Hizbullah has vowed to attack Israeli and U.S. targets in the wake of American military action. Iran has also threatened to rain missiles upon Tel Aviv. Moscow has vowed to increase weapon shipments to Damascus. Bombing Syria will light the fuse that could set-off the Mideast tinderbox.

Obama is pushing the United States toward a disastrous war for one reason: to salvage his ego. In August 2012, he publicly drew a “red line” in Syria over the use of poison gas.

The administration claims that Assad’s forces recently launched a chemical weapons attack upon civilians in rebel-held territory, murdering hundreds. To redeem his ultimatum, the president is asking Congress to authorize military force. The House and Senate should vote no.

Obama risks becoming the 21st century equivalent of Austro-Hungarian Emperor Franz Josef — a bungling buffoon, whose reckless military aggression triggers calamitous consequences.

The only justification to go to war is to protect America’s vital national security interests. Assad’s regime is brutal and ruthless.

But it has not attacked or threatened us. Hence, Obama seeks to wage an illegitimate war. There is no moral or strategic basis to bomb Syria. It is bellicose imperialism masquerading as humanitarian interventionism. The Syrian civil war is none of our business.

In fact, Obama wants the United States to do the unthinkable: side with Al Qaida — the very group responsible for the mass murder of 3,000 Americans and the worst terrorist atrocity on U.S. soil. Contrary to the claims of Secretary of State John Kerry, the Syrian rebels are not dominated by “moderates”; rather, their ranks are filled with Muslim extremists, who have committed numerous atrocities.

Read the rest at: http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/09/06/america-is-in-danger-of-going-rogue-under-obama/

 

 

Today’s Tweets and Knowledge on Syria

Below is some information collected by some good people on our web site.  Tweets, and various pieces of information will appear here.

More: Russia’s foreign minister urges US not to take military action, says President Obama is backing terrorists – @Reuters
59 mins ago by editor

John Kerry says Assad could prevent attack by turning over all chemical weapons to the international community within next week – @Reuters
6 mins ago by editor

More: Kerry says evidence is compelling that Assad launched chemical weapons attack
– @AP
11 mins ago by editor

John Kerry says rebels do not have scientific capacity to carry out chemical attack, despite regime claims – live video
18 mins ago by editor

John Kerry says he had productive and informative talks with Palestinian President Abbas on Sunday – @Reuters
29 mins ago by editor

US Secretary of State Kerry says relationship with Britain is special despite the vote in UK parliament on Syria intervention – @Reuters
33 mins ago by editor

Britain’s foreign minister says we must defer further chemical attacks during conference with Secretary of State Kerry
– @BBCNews
40 mins ago by editor

Russia’s foreign minister says Russia, Syria urge United States to focus on convening peace talks, not military action – @Reuters
1 hour ago by editor

Russian FM Lavrov says the investigation into Syrian chemical weapons must be professional, results must be submitted to UN Security Council
– @AlArabiya_Eng
1 hour ago by editor

Update: Control of chemical weapons in Syria restricted to President Assad, his brother Maher and an unnamed general, Kerry says – @Reuters
14 mins ago by editor

When asked if there will be attacks on American interests in the region, Assad says ‘you should expect everything’ – @CBSThisMorning
2 mins ago by editor

President Assad calls on Obama to ‘present what you have as evidence to the public, be transparent’ on chemical attack – @CBSThisMorning
4 mins ago by editor

Syria’s Assad denies his forces were responsible for chemical attack, says his own forces came under chemical attack – @CBSThisMorning
5 mins ago by editor

‘He presented his confidence, he presented his convictions… he didn’t present any evidence, nothing so far, not a shred of evidence’ Assad says when asked about evidence John Kerry says he has – @CBSThisMorning
7 mins ago by editor

‘Our soldiers in another area, were attacked chemically’ President Assad of Syria says in interview – @CBSThisMorning
9 mins ago by editor

 

Updated Just now:

Some points from a statement from Lavrov, Russia’s FM

Steve Rosenberg‏@BBCSteveR53s
Russian Foreign Min Lavrov: Russia will urge Syria to put chemical weapons under international control if it helps avoid military strikes

gandalf greybeard‏@gerrydogma1m
Lavrov has just urged Syria to hand over its chemical weapons. Hopes for a positive response from Syria @lrozen

Peter Diapre‏@skybod1m
AFP: Russia calls on Syria to hand over and then destroy chemical weapons: Lavrov

Laura Rozen‏@lrozen1m
did I get that right Lavrov said ‘we do not know’ if Syria will accept what Kerry said? but propose to find out? @tggrove

cigolo‏@cigolo1m
Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov Says Moscow Does Not Know Whether Syria Will Accept Proposal

Olivier Fehr‏@oliviernfehr1m
Surprise: #Russia ready to help convince #Syria to hand over Chemical Weapons to IC: Lavrov

Roland Oliphant‏@RolandOliphant1m
Lavrov says he likes John Kerry’s offer of handing over Syrian chemical weapons to avoid strike on Syria.

Anya Arda‏@AnyaArda2m
Russian FM Sergei Lavrov calls for Syrian govt to hand over chemical weapons

Simon Marks‏@SimonMarksFSN2m
Per @AnyaArda Lavrov has just urged Syria to hand over its chemical weapons.

عربي سوري‏@3arabiSouri3m
#Russia wants to bargain on #Syria’s strategic defense and national security. No way Mr. GasPutin and Mr. Lavrov.. Play another game.

Kerry dead set on bombing Syria

It’s kind of funny to watch a meltdown of a former war-protester-turned-warmonger, AKA John Kerry.

It appears that Obama and Kerry will do just about anything possible, say anything, lie or make up stories to get the chance to bomb Syria.

Now he is going on about the “Arab League” and their “Red Line”.

Whose Red Line is it Anyway?

http://www.smh.com.au/world/kerry-arab-league-agrees-syria-crossed-global-red-line-20130909-2tenz.html

 

 

If It’s Not “War,” It Sounds Like Checkers

Thursday, September 5, 2013

 

In his book On War, General Carl von Clausewitz explains that war “is controlled by its political object,” which “will set its course, prescribe the scale of means and effort which is required, and makes its influence felt throughout down to the smallest operational detail.” Over the last two days, John Kerry has insisted that “President Obama is not asking America to go to war.” He even goes so far as to suggest that he, General Dempsey and Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel “know the difference between going to war and what President Obama is requesting now.”

Over the last two days John Kerry has made a terrible case for war against Syria to Congress. While seeking action by Congress under the War Powers act, John Kerry has argued forcefully that all definitions of war by experts of warfare throughout history are wrong, and his definition is right. Ryan Evans at War on the Rocks captured the moment when Kerry jumped the shark.

Later, a frustrated Kerry revealed the real logic behind his position: public opinion. He noted that no Americans wanted to go to war with Syria and insisted the White House was of the same mind. “We don’t want to go to war in Syria either!” he exclaimed.  “It’s not what we’re here to ask. The President is not asking you to go to war…He’s simply saying we need to take an action that can degrade the capacity of a man who has been willing to kill his own people by breaking a nearly hundred year-old prohibition [against chemical weapons].”

Then, turning to Dempsey, Kerry asked, “General, do you want to speak to that?”

Dempsey responded, “No, not really, Secretary, thank you for offering.” Why? Because General Dempsey knew that was nonsense.

Words matter, and when they are not allowed to matter in policy, we are not being honest with ourselves. Over the last two days John Kerry described the political object with Syria as “to deter, disrupt, prevent, and degrade the potential for, future uses of chemical weapons or other weapons of mass destruction” by the Assad regime in Syria. The Obama administration has apparently convinced itself that a Desert Fox Part II action in Syria will produce the desired result, apparently ignoring that Desert Fox was in part what led to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. I do not know any serious expert who believes the Obama administrations military approach to Syria will achieve a positive political object for the US.

The Obama administrations national security leadership, in Congressional testimony, is promoting a delusion regarding the act of war, and is incapable of admitting they are about to start a war. Most troubling, they are intentionally dismissing consequences and the gravity of such action under the assumption that military superiority translates to strategic success. The United States does not have a strategy that political leaders can articulate publicly on Syria, nor is the Obama administrations national security leadership publicly seeking meaningful military objectives of consequence to conditions in Syria. The United States does not have a coalition of support to provide legitimacy for military action, a coalition that protects the US from escalation or retaliation. John Kerry, in front of Congress, described those who believe it unwise for the US to inject our nation into another nations civil war uninvited, as armchair isolationists. No one knew for certain the intelligence cited by Colin Powell was wrong in 2003. Every human being educated on the definition of war knows John Kerry is wrong in 2013, and no one credible on the topic of war will ever be able to argue otherwise.

http://www.informationdissemination.net/2013/09/if-its-not-war-it-sounds-like-checkers.html