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House rejects effort to cut off NSA surveillance program
Published July 25, 2013
FoxNews.com
The House of Representatives passed a $598.3 billion defense spending bill Wednesday, while rejecting an amendment to the bill that would have challenged the National Security Agency’s collection of millions of Americans’ phone records, in a debate that clashed privacy rights against the fight to thwart terror.
The defense spending bill passed 315 to 109. The amendment was voted down 217-205 on an issue that created unusual political coalitions in Washington, with libertarian-leaning conservatives and liberal Democrats pressing for the change against the Obama administration, the Republican establishment and Congress’ national security experts.
94 Republicans and 111 Democrats voted for the amendment, while 134 Republicans and 83 Democrats voted no.
The showdown vote marked the first chance for lawmakers to take a stand on the secret surveillance program since former NSA systems analyst Edward Snowden leaked classified documents last month that spelled out the monumental scope of the government’s activities.
It is unlikely to be the final word on government intrusion to defend the nation and Americans’ civil liberties.
“Have 12 years gone by and our memories faded so badly that we forgot what happened on Sept. 11?” Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the Intelligence committee, said in pleading with his colleagues to back the program during House debate.
Republican Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan, chief sponsor of the repeal effort, said his aim was to end the indiscriminate collection of Americans’ phone records.
After the vote, Amash could barely hide his frustration, telling reporters: “Ask the American people if the House did the right thing.”
His measure, offered as an addition to the defense spending bill, would have canceled the statutory authority for the NSA program, ending the agency’s ability to collect phone records and metadata under the USA Patriot Act unless it identified an individual under investigation.
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The Question:
“Do you trust the US Government?”
Bob Beckel: We Are Now Fascists
The Left has lost Bob Beckel. Fascism has come to the United States.
From Hot Air:
Bob Beckel: Let’s face it, this NSA snooping is getting awfully close to fascism
posted at 11:16 am on June 7, 2013 by Allahpundit
If you’ve lost Bob Beckel, you’ve lost .. one of Fox News’s six or seven liberals, some of whom are defending the NSA’s record-harvesting even now. Ah well. Worth watching anyway, partly because occasions for a second look at Beckel are rare and partly because of Dana Perino’s argument at the end about how Beckel would feel if the feds stopped data-mining and his son was killed in a terrorist attack. That’s the other evergreen defense of the surveillance state, complementing Lindsey Graham’s point yesterday that if you haven’t done anything wrong you should have nothing to worry about. If records-snooping saves lives, isn’t it worth it? Isn’t it absolutely true that if O canceled the PRISM program and then the country was attacked, he’d be bludgeoned politically by hawks for not having done everything he could to protect Americans? (Answer: Yes, it’s absolutely true.) Perino’s hypothetical reminds me of O’s and Biden’s “if it saves just one life” gun-control talking point from this past winter. More expansive background checks might save a few lives. An assault-weapons ban might save even more. A total ban on semiautomatics might save a lot. Why not do everything we can, even if it’s intrusive? You can slide a long way on that slope.
If you’ve lost Bob Beckel, you’ve lost .. one of Fox News’s six or seven liberals, some of whom are defending the NSA’s record-harvesting even now. Ah well. Worth watching anyway, partly because occasions for a second look at Beckel are rare and partly because of Dana Perino’s argument at the end about how Beckel would feel if the feds stopped data-mining and his son was killed in a terrorist attack. That’s the other evergreen defense of the surveillance state, complementing Lindsey Graham’s point yesterday that if you haven’t done anything wrong you should have nothing to worry about. If records-snooping saves lives, isn’t it worth it? Isn’t it absolutely true that if O canceled the PRISM program and then the country was attacked, he’d be bludgeoned politically by hawks for not having done everything he could to protect Americans? (Answer: Yes, it’s absolutely true.)…
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Feds Identify 300,000 Americans as Terrorists | Activist Post
After watching this video, I agree with the officers. No police officer should die like that. And no American citizen should die like that either.
We are not terrorists and I personally don’t understand the “Sovereign” theory or idea. I do however believe we citizens have the right to be left alone, to travel to and from work and other places and no be harassed. While I would not shoot a cop doing his job, I will resist those who feel they have more authority over me than they really do. If I’m not breaking the law, leave me the hell alone.
If you THINK I am breaking the law then certainly do your job, but don’t expect me to get out of my car, or give you consent to search – since I have never broken the law and have no intent to do so, as a law officer you will be the one breaking the law by ordering me out of a vehicle, and I WILL sue your ass for doing it when it’s all over.
Do you hate paying taxes? Are you fighting foreclosure? Do you feel like no one should be allowed to commit violence against you and don’t always blindly follow the commands of the authorities? Do you film encounters with police or believe gold makes better currency than Federal Reserve Notes? Well you might be part of a domestic terrorism movement and not even know it.
On Friday, the Los Angeles Times posted an article attempting to define a domestic terrorist movement consisting of as many as 300,000 Americans. Some are even labeled as non-violent “paper terrorists”.
Is there a more Orwellian term than “non-violent terrorist”? If you can think of one please share it in the comments below. They refer to this so-called terror group as “sovereigns, zealots who refuse to recognize government authority in virtually any form.”
When attempting to further define and identify individuals in this movement, some very…
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American Patriot Reality Check 